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Social Networking and Art: Desperation OR art marketing strategy?

by Brian Sherwin on 6/1/2012 12:36:39 AM

This article is by Brian Sherwin, regular contributing writer for FineArtViews. Brian Sherwin is an art critic, blogger, curator, artist and writer based near Chicago, Illinois. He has been published in Hi Fructose Magazine, Illinois Times, and other publications, and linked to by publications such as The Huffington Post, The Boston Globe, Juxtapoz Magazine, Deutsche Bank ArtMag, ARTLURKER, Myartspace, Blabbermouth, Milwaukee Journal Sentinel, Conservative Punk, Modern Art Obsession, Citizen LA, Shark Forum, Two Coats of Paint, Vandalog, COMPANY, artnet and Art Fag City. If you want your blog posts listed in the FineArtViews newsletter with the possibility of being republished to our 19,000+ subscribers, consider blogging with FASO Artist Websites.  Disclaimer: This author's views are entirely his/her own and may not reflect the views of BoldBrush, Inc.. You should submit an article and share your views as a guest author by clicking here.


Joanne Mattera , artist, critic and established art blogger, recently answered some questions from her readership for an art blog series called Marketing Mondays. One question -- and the response that followed -- caught my attention. It dealt with social networking posts and desperation. The interaction between Mattera and the artist raises several questions about how artists utilize social networking for the purpose of art marketing -- and how those efforts are interpreted by online 'friends'.

 

The artist made it clear that he/she is annoyed by specific types of posts made by artists on social networking websites. The artist asked Joanne Mattera, "Is it OK to shoot those boors on Facebook who insist on posting pictures of their work with SOLD!!! every time they sell a painting?". The artist added, "Not only is it annoying, it makes me feel crappy because I haven't sold anything in a while.". Mattera responded by stating, "It's one thing for artist friends to share news in conversation or via email about sales or other professional achievements—that's communication between colleagues—but the incessant "sold" announcements on Facebook, usually by the same small group of honkers, are annoying. They strike me as a desperate cry for validation.". Mattera added, "I have two suggestions: Ignore or defriend.". Needless to say, I take issue with Mattera's response.

 

I, for one, don't think it is fair to assume that an artist is "desperate" just because he or she decides to use social networking to inform people about sold artwork. I don't think informing people about your achievements is a "cry for validation" -- especially if you are using your social networking presence with art marketing in mind (most artists do). If it is a "cry for validation" -- doesn't that mean that merely sharing images of art online is as well? Perhaps exhibiting art, in general, is a 'desperate cry for validation'? In my opinion, Mattera's response has opened a can of worms.

 

Everyone seeks validation in some way -- I won't deny that. However, that does not mean that one is 'desperate' for seeking it. With art marketing in mind -- I would suggest that artists should be seeking as much online exposure as possible. Artists should try to reach as many people with their artwork as possible. I don't think artists should be ignored or 'defriended' -- as Mattera suggests -- after showing a little bit of online art marketing initiative.

 

This is the way I view it: there is nothing wrong with wanting to share your art with the world -- and there is nothing wrong with including additional information along with the 'visual message'. Social networking websites are a good platform for accomplishing that. It happens to be a key aspect of online art marketing in general. I, for one, think that it is outdated to suggest that artists should not utilize social networking to point to their art AND achievements. Unfortunately, that is the underlining message of Mattera's response in regard to this specific context.

 

If you spend as much time on social networking sites as I do you know that people often make trivial posts. Pointblank, I would rather read about a sold work of art than about what the artist had for dinner. I fail to see why this is an issue in the first place compared to 99% of the posts made by the average person. If you have an upcoming exhibit OR you have sold a painting -- don't be afraid to post about it.

 

Oddly enough, the artist asking the question made it clear to Joanne Mattera that 'sold art' posts make him/her feel bad because he/she has not sold any art lately. With that in mind, which is worse... desperation based on reader interpretation of a post OR outright jealousy? I would have told the artist to focus more on his/her online art marketing efforts -- and art studio practice -- instead of wasting energy being jealous about what other artists have accomplished.

 

In my opinion, it seems petty to remove someone from your social networking 'friend' list just because he or she has made it clear that artwork has been sold. If a post like that annoys you... I would suggest that it is your problem -- and you need to find out why you feel that way instead of distancing yourself from everyone who takes pride in selling art.

 

In closing, I want to know what you think. Are the 'I just sold this painting' type posts a 'desperate cry for validation' in your opinion? Do you find them annoying? Is this an issue of artist online etiquette that I'm 'missing'? Let me know what you think.

 

Take care, Stay true,

 

Brian Sherwin



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John D Moulton
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Hi Brian,

Thanks for yet another very interesting item.

For me, I think learning about sold artwork is critical IF an artist is interested in selling there work at all. Whether you like the piece that just sold or not, the information has to add to your knowledge of what IS selling. You may not understand WHY it sold and you may even balk at the buyers 'taste', but it's all good stuff, not least if the image is one that actually inspires you to try a different tack or just 'tweak' something you are already doing in a way that would give your resulting artwork greater 'commercial' appeal.

And even if everything you ever see selling is MILES away from what you feel you must create, well, at least you know why buyers are turning their backs on your work and from their a choice is clear: either carry on regardless because your creative juices demand it and you couldn't care less who likes it or not, or move on to something new.

Knowledge is power!

By the way, did I mention that I just ... Oops! no, wouldn't want to offend anyone!

Cheers,

John.

Phil Kendall
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Hi Brian, As most of my fans on those 'social networks' are fellow artists etc.

I cannot see the point of adding 'SOLD' to those that are sold. I'm pleased that they are but I do not wish to demotivate the rest.

I just post: here is my latest work of art and what do you think about it?

Brian Sherwin
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Phil -- You likely have a mix of online 'friends' though... fellow artists -- AND people who like your art (not to suggest that other artists don't like your art... you know what I mean. LOL). I just don't see what the big deal is about 'I sold' posts.

If you posted, "Hey everyone, I just sold *title of the arwork", along with an image of the work.... I would NOT think, "Man... Phil is being a real jerk today.". In fact, it may spur me to take a closer look in order to have an idea of why someone chose to buy it.

Curiosity may have killed the cat... but it can also help push more art out the door.

Brian Sherwin
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John -- I agree. You might learn (assuming the artist is being honest) something about what is marketable at this time -- at least within the circles of the artist who has posted -- if that is a consideration.

Again, I don't have a problem with the 'I just sold' type posts. I think the artist who asked Mattera about this needs a thicker skin. Clearly posts like that can demotivate some artists -- as Phil pointed out -- BUT that is no reason to tie one hand around your back when it comes to art marketing. If posts like that are working for you... keep doing it.

From the writer side of this I feel the same way. If I had held myself back from informing online 'friends' about articles and mentions... I would have not reached the point I'm at today. I don't think that is desperation... it is good business.

Most of the big media sources that have noticed me did so because I informed others by using social networking. If that is viewed as 'desperation' by some.... fine -- I'm desperate and loving it AND hungry for more. ;p



virginia bryant
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When I see that an artist has sold work, especially work I like, it gives me HOPE that it is possible to continue in a viable way. I LIKE seeing this and do those posts myself.


virginia bryant
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and, I am ALWAYS glad to hear of artists being paid. This should happen far MORE than it does.

Stacey Peterson
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This is the same blog in which Mattera suggests that an artist putting prices on their website might be "unprofessional", so I'm going to go ahead and listen to all of her advice with some caution. Selling art is a business, and if we can't accept that then perhaps we should find another job.

I think it comes down to personal preference - if an artist wants to have an art page on Facebook where they focus on marketing their work, then they might as well post "sold". If they're simply on facebook to socialize with fellow friends, family, and artists, it's probably not necessary, but why be offended? If it bugs you, stop following the person in question. Is it really necessary to go out and complain about it on the internet? Why not use that time to go make some beautiful artwork instead...

Chaz
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Mattera's brand of art marketing is a relic from when art galleries were the only option for making a living with art. The self-representing artist is becoming more empowered. The artist today can be financially successful without gallery involvement. Imagine what it will be like in 20 years. You can reach the audience you need without a middleman. A time will come when art dealers will be begging to represent artists.

Phil Kendall
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Stacey Peterson writes: "This is the same blog in which Mattera suggests that an artist putting prices on their website might be "unprofessional", so I'm going to go ahead and listen to all of her advice with some caution. Selling art is a business, and if we can't accept that then perhaps we should find another job."

I agree she should mind her own business!

The days of the artist represented [ a loose term at best] by a bricks and mortar art galleries are gone for ever.

it is the era of the self representing artist. Who would use any retail website that did not clearly list its prices?

Can anyone imagine say emailing Amazon [other brands are available] asking for the price of an item shown on their website?

Jackie
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Great article, Brian. The 'hey I just sold ...' posts don't bother me at all and they are just part of the social networking conversation. After all, if the artist was a car salesperson he or she might post 'hey, I just sold a fabulous Jaguar' or whatever.

What worries me about this though is that some artists just aren't using social media well. Social media isn't about blatant self-promotion and it's not just about Facebook either; Facebook is just a tiny part. So many people have a Facebook account and think they are 'doing' social media.

Social media is there to show your personality, engage with people and show your expertise. It there to add value to your fans and followers. If you think 'hey, I just sold...' is adding value, that's fine but there are much better ways to do so and to interact and establish yourself as an expert in your field.

patty
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good comments Brian, I agree it is just petty jealousy that prompted this person to delete the artist from his friend list. We should support and celebrate other artist's sales not berate them for it. I always like to know what work is selling, it is not the only measure of success but it is good to know.

georgianne fastaia
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dear Brian,

I believe that Social Networking can be a very powerful tool for Artists if used judiciously and in keeping with the true spirit of the word "social". I will share an example of my successful use as well as an example of my disastrous misuse of the Facebook Platform.

The following excerpt from my Facebook page reveals how posting an image of one's art with enough relevant "back story" about the painting offers an opportunity to understand that art is not an abstract concept, a decoration, but a real conversation with the world. By talking about what inspired me, what is challenging in the painting process I hope to diffuse the mystery surrounding the making of art and the meaning behind my life's choice. When posting my Art on Facebook I am always thinking about encouraging the dialogue between the artist(who functions as a translator of shared experience) and those who are not fluent in the language of art.


Georgianne Fastaia https://www.facebook.com/georgianne.fastaia?ref=name

‎'remembered tobacco barns south windsor' this painting is a recollected landscape from my summer picking shade tobacco age 14.

from a high school friend, --Denise Marie Letendre "i really like this! there are still some left. whenever i go back to ct. to visit relatives i give the boys a little history of them when we drive by- which they know by heart now and are totally bored with- they used to be everywhere and what's left stand like ghosts..."

May 21 at 9:55am Erin Gyolai "i will never forget the tobacco barns.....talk about working for your money! i remember the bus driver, his wife, and tall Monty!!"

May 21 at 12:16pm · Carole Lund "Memories of Private Stock on Fridays. Haha!"

May 21 at 7:05pm · Andrea Ginn Chalon "Monty! Forgot all about Monty! What a summer it was! Every time we are driving the back roads i can't help talking about the summer spent tying and sewing tobacco...my kids just roll their eyes. I thought it was $1.14/hr thanks for verifying that Georgianne!"

So yes, I will post news of Exhibitions and painting sales, but all within the greater context of engaging both Art lovers and those just curious about "what I did after high school"...with what is truly meaningful in how I spend my days.

Before congratulating myself on my successful use of Facebook, this comment from a Collector illustrates the Achilles Heel of Social Networking:Laziness.

At my recent Solo Exhibition, this man praised me but not before asking, "I love your work. I drove 40 miles to attend your show. So why do you hate me?"

He explained that he felt I did not like him at all because the only way he found out about my events was through mass shares or wall posts on Facebook. I was guilty of using Facebook as a catch all, neglecting to answer emails from patrons, aware that "They can check my Facebook page" to find out where my next show is at.

Needless to say, I answer every email now.



Joszie
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Ok Hi
I never respond to blogs.. But honestly this is Ridiculous!! I have been in many different types of business' prior to my artistic release to the world.. and One yr anniversary was June 1st as a Professional artist!... in one yr My credentials have went far beyond my expectations and I am truly blessed... You can view that list in my about section of my facebook fan page...www.facebook.com/JustJoszie as a side note I haven't added this months accomplishments!
That being said and already selling
The only people bothered are the Slackers! This business requires a lot of HARD WORK a Tuff skin! If you don't have one Hire an agent! I am extremely Happy when anyone list's their accomplishments or for that matter SALES!! It shows passion and productivity. If a fellow artist sells I try to find out to who? was it a direct online sale, a local neighbor or family member, through a gallery etc.... I do that with the artists that most compliment my own work... If they don't there sales are awesome but do not pertain to me!! This business is the most backwards jealous coat-tail riding business I have ever seen... Because the people that are having hissey fits and temper tantrums are NOT productive!! just Jealous!! I don't care what response you have to the contrary... there excuses!!! Be productive. Show me you are selling Gives me true passion for knowing my own possibilities! Showing me a sale shows me proof people are buying. Everyone is unique in there expression... use the ones selling as inspiration... not deviant demise... I can not fathom how some people can poke and point their finger at success, before they ever pick up a mirror to evaluate themselves! Seriously, The only thing I see is that person's inner desire to quit not the others person's success... This makes no sense!! They should truly ask themselves "What do I want?!! Where Do I want to be?!! and How do i want to be perceived by the world?!! From the handful of Art collectors I have spoken with along with all the gallery invitations, or the shows offered to me... None of that would be possible if they didn't see Sales!! Why would they seek you if your not Prosperous or productive! If you want to be a hidden artist then that's just what you'll be but don't sit there judging the one who openly and graciously chooses to be EXPOSED!! Just my take on it all... this is the most cry baby jealous backwards business I ever step foot in!! Ignore the Negative take in the positive and release more positive and success will come!! Have an Amazingly Artistic Day!

Jane
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I think tooting your own horn on the web is fine, and may be necessary. I really think times are especially tough for artists, and the more marketing you do the better. Art is a luxury that many people feel they can't afford. I used to ask art associates if they were selling much, but now I realize that is probably a inconsiderate question that they might not want to answer. But most people are kind of sheeple when it comes to art, and if you look like you're not selling much, it does't bode well.

Jackie
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"Just my take on it all... this is the most cry baby jealous backwards business I ever step foot in!! " - "This business is the most backwards jealous coat-tail riding business I have ever seen."

Joszie, I rather suspect that I am older than you. I also imagine that I have been involved in more businesses than you have. And most have had fabulous people.

But I have to say that the art community, online or 'in real life' is just that; a community. I've met fantastic, helpful people.

What on earth has happened to you to make you so negative? The art world is made up of wonderful people and it's a joy to be involved with them. It's awful that you've had bad experiences.

Nicole Hyde
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I have immense respect for Joanne Mattera, Her art speaks to me and she has generously given of herself to fellow artists with her knowledge and experiences. I am fully appreciative and grateful of her generosity.

I do not agree with her post, however. It's old school - a fading method of operations. The world has moved on.

That said, Joanne has an incredible blog that I value and will continue to read. She has much to impart.


Brian Sherwin
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Jackie -- Good points. You have to find the right balance. For example, if you just post blog/website links all the time you will lose some 'friends'/'followers' -- BUT if you add a little about yourself ever-so-often... everything is gravy.

Georgianne -- Good reminder on the downside of social networking. Another problem with Facebook is that messages from people who are not on your 'friend' list will often end up listed in 'other'. It can be easy to forget to check 'other' messages -- and I've found that a lot of people don't realize that there is an 'other' category.

Brian Sherwin
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Jane -- You said, "most people are kind of sheeple when it comes to art, and if you look like you're not selling much, it does't bode well.". There is truth in that. You can say the same about exhibits. If you are exhibiting -- don't be afraid to post about it.

I think of artist Chet Zar... and how well he has used social networking to keep people updated on exhibits (and on occasion, sold work) -- I, for one, get excited about what he is doing. It seems like every other week he is involved with an exhibit or live painting session... and people DO pay attention.

Brian Sherwin
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Nicole -- Joanne Mattera is one of my fave art bloggers. I'll add that she is one of the pioneer art marketing bloggers. The work she has done to raise the respect level of art blogging in general is greatly appreciated by many of us. I hope this article was not interpreted as a 'don't go to her blog' type post... that was not the intention.

Joszie
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Jackie,
Thanks for pointing that out... I am sooooo not negative... my negative experience is only in my world with the none sellers.. the ones who constantly attack instead of be happy for you... I have many many artist friends we share, praise and some of us have even collaborated art together... so I am glad you pointed that out so I can clarify... I am self taught, and as I said previous I am at this professionally for only one year... but locally I have found that surpassing some artists who want it all don't seem to go after it... In my situation they are negative and would be negative people in any genre I can't change that... but being an artist for some reason unbeknownst to me gives them a more childish behavior. I have reached out many times seeing what's wrong in their business' but you can only lead a horse to water you can't make them drink. I love art I love learning more... I'm like a sponge, I get so much from interacting so Please don't think I don't have a balance or that I am negative. But I can relate to the question posted. Just that side of the fence is crazy to me is all ...as for the original post I couldn't tell ya nor do I have any animosity towards someone I don't know I responded here to the question raised. :O) Have an Amazingly Artistic Day
Joszie


Jackie
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Hi Joszie,

I'm so pleased to hear that :) There are lots of reasons why people are negative but I find that it's often jealousy. They might be jealous of your art, your sales, your lifestyle - anything! In a weird sort of way, it's a compliment :)

There's nothing we can do to stop them being negative, so the best thing to do is ignore them as much as possible so they don't drag you down - maintain your own positive spirit.

Brian, thanks for your comments. When we first started in this business I rather imagined that Andy would create the art and I'd see to sales. But I find that in every case, people want to meet the artist. That's true online too - so showing personality makes people feel that they 'know the artist'.

Jane
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Thanks Brian, I'm trying to get into the new high tech way of doing things, difficult for me. I like the new things, but also want some privacy left. But, tooting your own horn all over the web may work. So, I opened up a website on Etsy, and put a link on my fineartstudio site too. I'm mostly going to sell small "affordable" paintings and cards there. Etsy is more craft than art, I think. BUT, I just found a site that shows the top selling stores for Etsy-Wow what a shocker! If any of you are interested the site is called craftcount.com. I would have put a link but I'm not sure of the rules on here. Anyway it lists the top selling art stores on Etsy, I could hardly believe it. Any artist that does orignials would have some comments on this. Maybe Brian you could write an article on this subject, puzzles me.

Jane
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Oh, If anyone was offended by Thomas Kinkaid,and his success, this is more extreme and puzzling. In fact they make Kinkaid look like a Master for sure.

Marsha McDonald
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From the stand point of a potential buyer, it's better to note when a painting is sold. I've had a few folks make remarks to me that I should update my website. (This was several years ago - I try to do better now!) But when people find a painting they
really like, particularly if they've been searching for awhile........then, they go to the effort to contact the artist only to find out that the piece is sold? That can irritate them!

ZanBarrage
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A piece of advice that I will never forget: "You are not so great that you can afford to be humble". I say tell the world of your success. Many people who love your work and may be just a bit hesitant to buy may be swayed when they hear that you sold something.

And another thing: STOP FRIENDING ARTISTS IN YOUR BUSINESS!!! What are you thinking people? Target your market and focus on adding patrons or would be buyers to your page followers. Do you really need the positive feedback from fellow artists is that why you have a facebook page or is it to market to potential buyers? Why don't you have business owners? Lawyers? Known collectors? Real Estate agents? Interior decorators? Instead of fellow artists (with all respect to fellow artists don't get me wrong I love you all).


Joszie
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Zan:
OH OH Wait for It....... OH Bravo!!! I Concur totally!!! <3

Jackie
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Facebook, Facebook, Facebook ...

It's such a tiny part of social media!

ZanBarrage
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Well heck! I just sold a small one yesterday from Facebook! So yes it does work and yes it is a great feeling to sell. I hope we all get that feeling regularly!

I was sharing a work in progress on it on facebook just for the heck of it since it was my first nude ever and I thought it was fun because it happened as I was doodling with paint over a botched landscape.

Yesterday I posted the final image and put it on my website at around 7pm. By 12am it was sold to someone who was engaged in the previous exchanges on it! The process was not manipulative, it was genuine and in retrospect I think the engagement in the wip was key. Will it happen again if I deliberately try it? Probably not. Social networkers have good BS-radars and if I did it again next week it would stink of manipulation, but I will do it again when it feels right.


mimi t boothby
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I, too like to hear when friend/artists sell paintings. If someone is constantly selling, i might select to hear less news from the person (on facebook) but for the most part, I find it heartening to know stuff is being sold by my friends and sometimes when I sell, I post the happy news too. I don't always trumpet my good news.

Marian Fortunati
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I like to read about other people's accomplishments and don't mind sharing my own.
When I read about a "sold" painting or a "just juried in" painting I get an idea about different types of work and what some are considering "good". In essence, I learn.
And... the thing about social networking is... If you don't want to read it DON'T READ IT... If the person bugs you, for WHATEVER reason you can skip, hide or de-friend... no big deal.
I choose to look when I take the time... There are a whole lot of people out there who share of themselves and it's interesting to get beyond myself to see what others think and do. I just need to monitor my time on SM so I spend time on MY pursuits as well.

Sheila Psaledas
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Kudos to that artist who announced SOLD on Facebbok. I don't usually remember to do that, although I have done it once or twice. To the person who is feeling upset by it, try to send out positive thoughts and feelings of gratitude to everyone around you, even those who you think are your enemies. Life has a way of turning around toward the positive side when you do this.

Sheila Psaledas
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Brian, your article about the artist who annouced a sold painting on Facebook, also reminded me of an incident at an outdoor show some years back. One artist exhibited her works for the "purchase prize" contest with previously awarded blue ribbons attached. Quite a few artists were up in arms about this, saying it would sway the judges when deciding who would take the purchase prize. I didn't know what to think, other than figuring if my work was good enough, perhaps I'd win a prize. You could have cut the feelings of animosity in the air with a knife. I've never seen so many artists at a show running around and complaining. The lady running the show said she didn't think there was any infringement of the rules, but many people were upset. What would you have felt like if you had experienced that?

Debra LePage
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Because many of my Facebook artist friends are friends in real life, I know their personalities and so know they are posting "Sold!" because they are thrilled. No bragging or gloating intended and so I am also very happy for them-not envious.

Wendell Myers
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I have to agree with many comments here that it simply does not make sense to be offended by artists who report their successes on social media. This certainly smacks of jealousy and sour grapes to ME! I also disagree completely that somehow posting your prices is unprofessional. This, to me, seems naive in the extreme! As someone who has bought quite a lot of art over the years, I can say, if you won't tell me UP FRONT what you are asking for your work, well then, I am simply not interested.

Barbara Groenteman
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Artists should be happy when people are selling, it's a good sign. Sometimes in this economy it becomes artist against artist. As artists we only have to look to ourselves when things are not going as expected. I see the "sold" post on FB is more like marketing not bragging...just today I read a post on FB... Marketing = Leadership..
done tastefully it works

A note to Sheila P.
I do alot of art festivals and only the reputable ones mandate that there are no past ribbons or awards displayed from other shows. If you have contributed a donation or allowed your work to be viewed for possible purchase awards the show organizers usually give you a small ribbon to display as appreciation. If a juror is swayed by that kind ribbion of appreciation he should not be a juror. Many times jurors read Bios and that is the place to announce your achievemants.

K. Henderson
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I like to see "sold". I get so tired of artist saying how "bad the economy is". Those are the people I de-friend. SOLD shows that not all is doom and gloom. SOLD is good.
I'm with you Brian. I like to see the sold work and determine why someone would buy it.
I also have galleries as FB fiends and it doesn't hurt to let the galleries know that you have a collector base.
Same with collectors. They like to see my work selling. Many of them like the validation that they made a smart choice by buying your work

Sandra Reeves Cutrer
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Thank you,Brian,for your wonderful article! I post my newest paintings on Facebook, and I post when I've sold one. I have actually asked my Face book friends if they think I post too much of my artwork, and all responses were super positive, telling me they loved seeing my work. I have sold several paintings using Facebook. I say Joanne needs to stay off Facebook. Face- book is for friends- if they aren't friends, and they don't like what you post, then they should delete you and go their merry way. I don't like foul language, and delete those who use it on my friends list. I also like prices- on everything- that is for sell. If they are not, I may ask once, but many times, I just move on. It's as simple as that! Moreover, I do not like people assuming they know my income because I ask for a price or want one on the item! Having worked in the banking system for years, I quickly learned one should never guess at someone's income by his or her clothing or what they drive- or if they asked for a price on a service!

suzi marquess long
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Attitude is everything, Brian. Some years ago I was designing a logo for my mural painting business, WhimsyWalls. I was inspired by the incoming gentle surf in Kailua and a Pepto Bismal ad to create a logo with red paint dripping down from the top of the card in cartoon style. When I surveyed friends about the design, 99 out of 100 loved it; the 1 percent said it looked like dripping blood. He had just lost his biggest client in his advertising company. So yes, attitude is everything. I think putting your successes out there to show the world is a good thing. Your friends are happy for you and maybe other artists will be inspired to push on to their own successes.

Rosemarie Adcock
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Hi Brian! Thanks again for another thoughtful post. I have to say I could relate somewhat to the person who was annoyed at what they referred to as the boorish posts shouting SOLD! But let me explain: I have a friend, a really good guy, love the guy and his family, who happens to be an insurance agent, and happened to be set loose on Facebook recently. When I saw his name next to a post I was delighted to see that that I might read some pithy saying or words about his family and their goings on, but instead read what was essentially an advert on life insurance and why would I leave myself and my family unprotected, and how he could be of help and to call him. Well, I could read these once maybe twice, maybe a few times, MAYBE because I love the guy, but I have to say a continuous barrage of these almost had me hiding his posts so I didn't have to read the insurance commercials anymore. So I say all that to say this: does what we post a sound like a commercial? Facebook spam? I think we all need to be honest with ourselves here. There is probably a difference in tone in the way we post something to excitedly share with friends or something that sounds too much like blatant self-promotion. I suppose one thing we can do is keep separate pages for the art biz and our personal page, and post appropriate to both. I try to do that, assuming people who "like" the Rosemarie Adcock Fine Art FB page are interested in seeing work that has just sold and keeping up with it all. It is so exciting to see sold paintings, whether Christie's, Sotheby's or Rosemarie's! Exciting for me, I guess. It might be interesting to set up a facebook poll and ask our FB friends if they are annoyed by SOLD posts or not. Then we would have an unbiased answer. My 2 cents. (:

Delilah
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Maybe the name of the blog should be Cry Baby instead of Marketing.

My blogs and social network have both artist and collector. I think it is good to let collector know that others are buying your work. I also think it is good for artist nor to get into a ho poor me thing and see that art is selling.

I always give kudos to a fellow artist when they sell it takes a lot of hard work.I'm sorry if you feel bad because yours didn't sell maybe someone would have bough it if you added a paypal button and a price.



Brian Sherwin
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ZanBarrage -- You said, "And another thing: STOP FRIENDING ARTISTS IN YOUR BUSINESS!!! What are you thinking people? Target your market and focus on adding patrons or would be buyers to your page followers."

I'd suggest that it is natural for artists to 'friend' artists on Facebook in this way. If you post info about your art on art focused Facebook groups or pages you are bound to end up with artists wanting to 'friend' you. It is not necessarily a bad thing. It can lead to shared information, exhibit opportunities, and so on.

That said, I do agree with you in regard to making 'friends' outside of the realm of art when it comes to professions. If you can 'friend' a lawyer or doctor -- by all means, do it. It is a plus if they happen to be art lovers. It may also be wise to think in terms of the region you live in when making connections like that.

I happen to have a New Jersey / New York real estate hotshot on my Facebook 'friend' list. He is an art lover -- and happens to own one of the largest private art collections in New Jersey. He comments on art often... and is really good about sharing work that he likes -- which is great for those artists because most of his friends are other real estate types and lawyers. :)

I know that a lot of artists on Facebook will 'friend' gallery owners. That is OK -- but do keep in mind that they are most likely not seeking new talent on Facebook (the gallery owners I know actually get annoyed if artists get 'pushy' on Facebook). Note: most will block you the first time you post a link to your art on their wall.

I'd suggest 'friending' known curators (especially if the curator lives in your state). Curators do tend to keep their eyes open online. If you can establish an online friendship with a curator it may lead to potential exhibit opportunities later down the road. I've observed that happen. Food for thought.



Brian Sherwin
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Sheila Psaledas -- Did the awards actually block the painting itself? I'll admit it -- I can be a jerk at times... so if I were judging that competition -- and if the ribbons were visible -- I'd view it as if the ribbons are supposed to be a part of the piece overall. If it does not make sense for the ribbons to be there... I would take note of that. ;p



Katarzyna Lappin
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Hi Brian ! It is interesting that anybody could be annoyed by the fact that somebody else sold the artwork and wants to display this information on their social sites. It rather unveils that somebody has a problem with somebody else success. The social networks are used by the artists as a marketing extension so I wouldn't see anything wrong about that, especially when somebody gained hundreds or thousands of "friends".

I used to have an account on a social network for two years. I did the same and I used it entirely for business purposes. If I sold a work, this information was posted right away. I had "friends" among people I know, other artists and potential customers. It was only art and art related information. But after two years I learned that different ways of marketing appear to be more effective in my case. I deactivated my account and focused on marketing my professional, paid website.

Katarzyna



Brian Sherwin
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Wendell Myers -- I agree about listing prices and if a work is sold on your website. You don't want to make a potential online buyer jump hoops just to find out if a piece is available or not. How many of us have walked out of a store because the line was too long? I know I have. Don't make your online buyers stand in a line.

Brian Sherwin
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Rosemarie Adcock -- I'll agree that in the best scenario the artist will use a Facebook page for promoting art. That way you know that people 'liking' the page are interested in it strictly for your art.

That said, I also realize how easy it can be for your profile to become the hub of your Facebook activities. Furthermore, Facebook pages do have several restrictions when it comes to communicating on Facebook in general. If you want to be involved with art-focused pages and groups you almost have to use your actual profile.

Lena
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The idea that a "Sold" sign is a desperate seeking of validation is hilarious. That artist just got validated with MONEY. They don't need more then that. They are happy! They feel good. They are sharing the good feelings. But yes they will attract the trolls and the jealous ones. Nobody is supposed to feel good. But you know that the their problem and not that of the successful happy artist. Being humble starts after you make your first million.

Tricia Perkey
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As an artist who does not sell their work (at all) it's clear that every artist is at their own level when it comes to that. I love seeing new works of artists I know and cheer them on whenever they have success. If success to them is a sale...well then...I expect I'll see a post every time, but it would not annoy me. I would be happy for them. There are other artists that never feel the need to claim the spotlight for a sale but are posting new works all the time. They must be too busy selling to even notice.

David Ralston
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Hahahahaha and ha ;-). Great can opener Brian how small minded some can be in this world cause it does not fit their cookiecutter view of life. Creates lots of the problems in this world is differences we have, and thats the thing that makes us unique. Sound like some should support others accomplishments in life instead of letting jealousy,envy and other self confident issues rule their day. I have lots of artists on my page and am a liker of lots of art pages. It is great to support and be supported by like minded. I for one totally support many and their accomplishment and actually post stuff for them as a artist courtesy and support on my page. It just me some may not agree but thats a personal problem. Wanting artist to prosper is what its about and supporting their accomplishment is a insight to what sells. Also its a respect and courtesy to others. Antiquity morals for self and others should be a deep consern, its a building block for us. If ya care to like or judge my page its at: http://www.facebook.com/ralstonartdesign Peace

Sheila Psaledas
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It's unfortunate that some people get their 'nighties in a knot' over someone else's happiness. I've seen a few-not many- artists at shows that have a 'moue' on their face because they are not making sales. I spoke to one lady who had this negative attitude and was actually snubbing some of her artist friends nearby who were making sales. My comment was "No wonder you're not selling, you have such an angry look on your face that you are scaring people away!" (Oh, well,I've never been one to mince my words).

Kathy Chin
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It sounds like the majority of us are pleased when a fellow artist sells something, and it seems to me that that's the way it should be. I can also understand though it may depend on how the sold notification is made. If it's tasteful and matter-of-fact wonderful...but I can see how a "i sold this congratulations to me, I'm so great, nanner nanner nanner," would be in extremely poor taste.
Seems like good business to let folks know what's for sale, and when something sells.

Bill Harrison
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You have to decide what your Facebook and other social sites are for. If you decide they are exclusively for keeping in touch with your art buddies, public be damned, then you'd want to know how your group generally feels about Sold notices before posting one.

But if you're actually using social media as a marketing tool, then you USE IT FOR MARKETING. And if you have a following, then you want to post Sold notices whenever you can, not because YOU get validation from it, but because THEY do.

People love winners. While there are some discriminatiing collectors who will buy an artist's work no matter what others think of it, most people who are thinking of buying your art want to know that other people see value in it too.

Posting SOLD notices is a way of reassuring your fans and potential buyers that people other than themselves actually see your work as valuable and worth the money. This encourages them to get off the fence and buy, so they can be part of the winning team too.

Think about it... if you're an appreciator and sometime collector of art, whose career do you follow with more interest; someone whose work never sells, or someone whose career is taking flight with sales, shows and awards? And whose work are you more likely to want to purchase?

If you're going to use social marketing, then use it to market!

And on the question of posting prices, it depends on what your price range is. If your work is generally in the "impulse buy" range, say up to about $300-$400, I would definitely post the price. That way people who are interested can make the decision and purchase the work straight through your site, without a delay that might give them time to re-think the purchase.

I would even set up my site to accept Paypal and add shipping costs automatically, so buyers can purchase as soon as the urge hits. (Better make SURE you keep up-to-date in posting Sold notices on your work though.)

If your prices are in the thousands of dollars, your now selling work to more serious collectors. These are people you want to be able to interact with, so I would say you shouldn't post your prices. Let them contact you and begin an actual conversation about your work.

Ever notice how most real estate ads will tell you a lot about the house, including the price, but won't tell you where it is? There's a reason for that... the realtor wants you to call them for the information so they can begin a dialogue with you, that hopefully ends with them selling you a house. Most of the time that house is not the one you called in on.

If you're in the middle range, you have to look critically at your owm prices. Frankly, most collectors can look at a piece of art and have a pretty good idea what it should cost. If you think your work is a bargain, then post your prices. If you realize you're asking top dollar, then maybe you shouldn't.

Jack White, an old cowboy artist who is, among other things, the Offical Artist of the state of Texas, has written some wonderful bookks about how to promote your work for those looking for guidance.



Melanie Shook Dupre
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Sharing JOY and sending LOVE to other people is our natural state of being. If someone's happiness is causing you jealousy or pain it would be a good idea to look at that and take some positive steps towards releasing the lie you believe about yourself--that YOU are not successful or loveable! Being in a state of gratitude for success, whether it is yours or someone elses, brings success to you, you can own everyone's success if you will just change your mind about being seperate! Personally when I sell a piece and post it as SOLD it is my delight and joy I am sharing, and it is also a really good psychological tool for my public. When I see someone else sold a piece, I participate in their happiness in my heart, because I don't see their sale as taking anything away from me, quite the contrary. If people are continuing to buy art, that gives all of us reinforcement that we are fulfilling a need in society. You get to choose your attitude towards things, it is one of the only things you really can control (though it seems difficult at times) and personally I prefer to have an attitude that brings me joy.

Brian Sherwin
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David -- That is what blowed me away by Mattera's response. The artist asking the question made it clear that posts like that make her feel bad because she has not sold anything lately. Mattera made no attempt to tackle the jealousy issue. I would have told the artist to develop a 'tough skin'... seriously. I'm willing to bet that once something is sold that same artist will post about her accomplishment. ;p

Just to be clear... I'm not bashing Mattera here -- I enjoy her blog. Her response was just way off in my opinion.

Brady Allen
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To beat a dead horse to death, I LOVE to hear that other artists are selling. It makes me realize that people really do buy art and I'm not wasting my life.

It is also good for business. When I posted that a painting had sold, I had a friend who I had known for years suddenly realize that I sold my paintings, and want to buy one.

If other artists posting sold messages bothers someone, maybe that someone should consider counseling instead of getting satisfaction through revenge such as defriending.

Brian Sherwin
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Lena -- You said, "Being humble starts after you make your first million.". Ha. I love that.

Brady -- If you think about it... most art news from the big time art world is about sold work -- and how much it was sold for. I wonder if Mattera frowns on that kind of coverage? I know of art dealers who mention how well sales are on their blog. I don't think it is 'bad' for them to do that.

Most artists don't have the benefit of press contacts or a PR team. Utilizing social media / social networking is the only way they have to release information about where they are with their work... both in the studio and from the business side of it. That is something to consider as well.

If a self-representing artist wants to empower himself/herself by informing others... I'm all for it.

sketchz
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hello
sounds like insider angst being networked to the world . ( ho-hum )
my friends tell me i'm dependent on painting .
> i send them handmade christmas cards ...

David Ralston
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Humble and supportive before money is better lol. Old days of artist being snobby are over and didnt accomplish much socially. Great art by us all will always be created thats a fact. How we interact with others not only helps us but gives us and our business a friendly personal side to make potential supports connect easier. Also if not evenly important, maybe more we teach and represent a better view of artist for the public and as a representative for those starting out. To change the world and view of us by "label" so called open minded artist we shall Lead by example. Remembering that even if its quiet there is still someone watching always, a buyer, some shy student studying us. And not only art but behavior is the subject and what forms tomorrows reactions. Interesting eh???

Jackie
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I like your post, Bill! It's refreshing to see someone mention 'other social' sites in addition to Facebook which, on my scale of social media marketing is fairly down there.

It's also good to see the work MARKETING (especially in caps!) because it seems that some artists are trying to market from a personal account, rather than a professional one.

jack white
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Brian,

We have a saying in Texas, "Some folks wouldn't be happy if they were being hung with a new rope."

Isn't the idea for an artist to sell their art? We have no art for sale on Senkarik.com. She can't even keep up with her few art gallery sales. I don't want that lady to look at Mikki's site, she would have an upset stomach for months. I can't remember when we last had an extra painting in the studio. We ship wet art to the galleries.

I set up our marketing plan to make sales not collect "friends." For the past year we have used Face Book to some success, but her blog has been the driving force behind our online success.

All of this doesn't just happen, we have to work and work smart.

Jack

Jackie
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Wise words, Jack.

Yes, it's possible to sell via Facebook, if it's done correctly. Facebook is there for marketing, not selling. It does seem though - I might be wrong - but it seems that a lot of people spend far too much time on Facebook. Three minutes a day max, that's all that's required.

I'm very glad to see that Mikki's blog is so successful. I know I bore people to death saying that a blog is the heart of social media!

Roberta
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I don't generally post when smaller sales are made, but I do advertise when I've had a significant sale or had work bought for a public or corporate collection.

I think it's good to post these messages. It gives collectors confidence that others love your work enough to invest in it, and it just might give them the boost they've been waiting for before taking the plunge to purchase your work themselves.

It should also give other artist's encouragement that the art world is still alive; that people are still valuing and buying art. If we never heard about work selling (regardless of whose it is) we would be placing ourselves in a bubble - and that bubble could very well be one of discouragement and disappointment when our work isn't selling well.

I could go on and on about the benefits of touting your horn; and the power of positive marketing messages (such as "Yay! I sold a painting today.); but I think a lot of it has been said already. A winning attitude is the first step to success.

If a friends work is selling and yours isn't, I'd suggest your time would be better spent finding out why, rather than being jealous. Negativity in any form is a put off to people; and it could be that negative attitude is what is keeping this lady from selling her work.

Delores Haberkorn
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I am happy for them for selling a painting and I know one day my turn will come.

Adriana Guidi
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I agree with you Brian and many of the posts here. (@ Melanie-exactly how I feel too.)Yes I think "unfriending "someone just because he/she wants to send out an expression of gratitude and positive vibrations for people buying their work is a little lame.I've posted "sold" and I congratulate others when they sell..when you stop and think about it.it gives us all encouragement..People ARE buying paintings! We should all talk of good news-it brings more good energy and more good news.

Olivia Alexander
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Hi Brian,
I agree with you. I am quite happy to see fellow artists posting their sold pieces on FB or other social sites.
1. I am genuinely happy for them. As an artist I know the amount of work and hours we put in. When someone buys a painting it is the greatest compliment to the artist. Someone has chosen something they created to keep in their own home. How wonderful is that!

2. It encourages me because it shows that there are still people out there who value and want to own original art! Great!

I believe that what we put out to others comes back to us; so lets encourage and help where we can.

I would not 'defriend' someone who posts 'Sold'.

I actually posted a painting on FB yesterday that was purchased from my studio that morning. My followers and collectors are interested in what I am doing and it is important to them as owners of my work.
I also have a big exhibition in Sydney this month so it is another reason to keep connected with followers.
I am a professional, serious artist- I want to sell my work and I'm thrilled when I or a fellow artist does :)
Keep writing Brian!

patricia a griffin
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It is inspirational to me to hear of others success.
I work harder knowing that there is movement in the art market.

David Ralston
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Jack, Sounds excellent, great job doing what you and Mikki do. Very happy for ya and everyone thats proving that there is hope for those of us that put our all into our work. And in these days of digital creation a good ol hand painted art is still valueable. Blessings n happy painting.

jo allebach
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Think it is wonderful when someone sells a painting. I know the joy it brings to me from creating to selling. I just want to let you know that people who sell so many that it clogs FB, etc. should be considerate and let others show their hsppiness for selling. Aren't we suppposed to share out work and our feelings about it.

Brian Sherwin
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Thanks everyone.

Roberta -- You nailed it with, "Negativity in any form is a put off to people; and it could be that negative attitude is what is keeping this lady from selling her work.".

Who knows... she might learn a few things if she reached out to the 'friend' who has sold artwork. 'Talking shop' can be a good thing. Instead she is cutting off connection with a fellow artist who may have a few words of wisdom. There really is no lesson learned from doing that.





Brian Sherwin
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Jack -- You have me thinking of online 'friends' and social networking in general. I don't think there is anything wrong with accepting 'friend' requests or 'friending' people to boost online reach. Most of my Facebook 'friends' are people who sent a request to me. As a blogger... it has been useful. It can be a plus if an article link goes viral.

On the other hand... the value of that reach can be debated. Furthermore, big social networking numbers can become meaningless if the specific social network website is no longer the 'in thing' (which is why artists should have a personal presence online instead of using a social networking website as their base of operations).

Look at what happened with Myspace. When Myspace was popular I maintained an art group of 50,000 members for Myartspace.com (defunct). I'm willing to bet that most of the group members are no longer active on Myspace. In a sense, that group is a digital graveyard.

I have not been on Myspace in years. The member numbers may have increased for all I know... but the group community, last I checked, was dead. It went from having several hundred threads on an almost hourly basis... to just a few each week. Only number can be extremely deceptive.


Brian Sherwin
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Blah.... I meant, online numbers can be extremely deceptive.

tom weinkle
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great article. I happen to be guilty of making those posts myself. Not trying to make anyone feel bad, actually hoping to encourage others to pursue their dreams...to believe that there is an audience for your art, no matter what your skill or talent.

I also think it lets non-artists know that art is valuable and important in our society, and collected.

I'm sorry if I have offended others, but I will continue to let people know, because it is helping me achieve my goals. I am thrilled when other artists sell work, and quite happy to hear about it. Being happy for others who achieve success is empathetic, caring and important.

tom


Jackie
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Brian, I didn't know that MySpace still existed :)

You know, the more I think about this subject, the more I wonder if spreading 'sold' messages via social media is a good idea.

I realized this when it occurred to me that we never have and don't intend to unless we were given the client's permission and only then if it was to promote the client.

If we posted every day that we'd made a sale, it would bore everyone. If we only posted every month or so, it would say 'I only sell one artwork a month'. (Or even worse, if it was less often that would give a terrible impression).

If we posted "Yay, we made a sale!" in that jubilant tone, that gives a bad impression too. Of course we sell, that's our job; it's what we're supposed to do. You wouldn't see surgeons posting "Yay, I removed an appendix". That's his job just like selling artwork is ours.

If the client requested it through, we'd post to all our social media to promote the client. For example, we've recently received an order for sixteen artworks from an up-market restaurant. When they are in place, we'll post about that BUT to promote the restaurant first and foremost.

We won't say "Yay, we sold sixteen artworks". It will be more like "See a new collection of our work at [restaurant name]". That makes our client feel good, it promotes the restaurant - and our work, of course. But we'll make sure that the client knows how we have promoted his business for warm, fuzzy, keep-a-collector-happy purposes.

I can't see how this would translate to a private individual. Could it?

Jackie
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Tom, I think it depends on whether people are posting from private accounts or business accounts. What I'm talking about in every post I've made in this topic is the business account, not the personal.

I'd have no problem posting about a sale on a personal account as long as I knew it would interest people. But I'd only do so from a business account if it was for the reasons I mentioned above.

tom weinkle
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Jackie,

I agree with you that tone and context of reporting sales is important. We should not appear arrogant or insensitive, and certainly respect our collectors privacy.

Many people post in their personal FB pages for two big reasons..although there are more. One; they don't have a Fan(hate that name) or Entity Page, and two; the entity pages don't appear the same way in the news feed. Sharing a entity post through personal pages is what gets all of us more exposure. For me, I also like to share the news with friends and family. If they choose to share it with others, great. If they choose not to, I respect that.

I think Facebook co-opting the term "friend" has given the word new meanings. It's here to stay, and fortunately FB has also given us ways to reduce the amount of updates and posts from our friends we see.

All in all I agree that we need to respect our online and offline friends and connections, and your examples of how to say things makes a lot of sense to me.

thx

tom

thx

Brian Sherwin
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Jackie -- You said, "If we posted every day that we'd made a sale, it would bore everyone. If we only posted every month or so, it would say 'I only sell one artwork a month'. (Or even worse, if it was less often that would give a terrible impression)."

I'm not so sure people think that way with social networking though. I know when I view my Facebook stream, for example, I'm 'in the moment'. I'm interested in what I view at that specific time... and I may 'click' further to investigate. I rarely backtrack to see what someone has posted months ago... I focus on the here and now. That is just me though.

Observing an informative post about sold artwork may spur me to investigate. If I want to know if other works have been sold I would choose to go to the artists website and see if that info is available there. So... posting about sold work can trigger my curiosity. Just as posting about an exhibit may spur me to find out more about the exhibit. I'm not going to think "this artist must not exhibit much' if I only see exhibit announcements ever-so-often. I'll end up going to the artists websites to find out more.

Jackie
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Hi Tom,

I hate the whole childishness of Facebook, with its 'fans' and 'friends'. So many young members of my family are on Facebook all the time that I tend to see it as bit of a toy. (Especially with all those stupid games and quizzes - yuk). I'll only use it in a client's social media campaign if they specifically request it but the trouble is that most of them do.

They think that social media *is* Facebook!

Marilyn Rose
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Wish I had time to read all these creative and thought-provoking posts! I'm getting old and can't remember if I've posted a painting and said it was sold, except when one got accepted into an important show and sold at the reception. That was especially sweet!
When a painting is juried in I'm asking my friends to "rejoice with me!".... and they do.

I like to post paintings that marked an artistic breakthrough for me, and i invite people to read my blog for the whole story. When I look at a painting on Facebook I'm interested in the workmanship and the story of the artist's inspiration or struggle. I don't care if it sold or not, and I really don't care if everyone knows when my paintings sell.

tom weinkle
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i do agree that much time can be wasted on FB, but it's interesting to see how many companies are actively and successfully using it to drive web traffic, reinforce brand or promotions. It's one component of social networking in my view...like many things in life, it comes down to content.

happy painting!



Jackie
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I 100 percent agree Tom, content!

Beth
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Sounds like there's some hatin' going on. I say don't hate the player, get in the game and sell some art! Facebook is a pain, and a supreme time-waster. I go to Pinterest for inspiration, but I don't spend too much time online. I've got work to do, shows to find. Anybody that can get an audience on Facebook, more power to 'em.










 

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