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The Masterpiece

by Jack White on 4/18/2012 9:30:32 AM

This post is by Jack White, regular contributing writer for FineArtViews.  Jack has enjoyed a forty-one year career as a successful fulltime artist and author. He has written for Professional Artist Magazine for 14 years and has six art marketing books published. In 1976 Jack was named the Official Artist of Texas. He has mentored hundreds of artists around the world.  Jack authored six Art Marketing books. The first, “Mystery of Making It”, describes how he taught Mikki to paint and has sold over six million dollars worth of her art. You should submit an article and share your views as a guest author by clicking here. 

 

It’s amusing to see how frequently artists refer to a piece of their work as a masterpiece. This is the most misunderstood term in the artist’s lexicon. In the days when art students worked in an atelier (studio) under a master painter/teacher, they first learned to draw from plaster casts. They then progressed to copying black and white posters. Live models were provided only when the student became proficient in draftsmanship. The models cost too much money to be capriciously used. Finally, when a student’s skill reached a level the teacher was satisfied with, they were allowed to use color. By then, apprentices knew a lot about grinding stones into a fine powder to make the colors because they had been mixing the oils for the master. After their knowledge had reached a high level and time came for the artist to leave the studio, he was asked to paint a piece showing all he had learned. When finished, the artist presented that piece to his master, thus the Master’s Piece. An artist can only paint one Master’s piece in his lifetime. Note I did say he. Very few females were allowed to train in an atelier under a master. Those of us who are self-taught can never produce a Master’s piece unless we paint one for ourselves. That word is reserved for those who studied at the feet of a master artist, which eliminates a great deal of you reading this article.

 

The saddest commentary on our industry is that today’s modern masters no longer share their knowledge. There is no apprentice system that allows the beginner to learn at their feet. I’m not being critical, I fully understand why. Today’s artists need to spend their time in production, promotion and distribution. The art world is now very complex. We don’t have a patron system anymore; we have to sell our stuff in a competitive market.

 

About now one of you is probably getting ready to challenge this last paragraph by citing Dale Chihuly. I will grant you, Dale employs a large number of helpers, giving them the opportunity to learn the craft of working with glass. He has a production system to assemble his giant pieces of art. Some think after he lost an eye in an auto accident, he began to bring in assistants. Others say he began working with a helper when he teamed with William Morris, a man of great talents and physical strength. Morris did the majority of the work and Chihuly got the credit. But his primary program is to produce Chihulys, not to teach others to become competitors. Most of his key people have been with him for a long time.

 

Dale didn’t start at the top; he was introduced to glass blowing at the University of Washington where he took courses in Interior Design. Then, he went on to the University of Wisconsin where he studied glass blowing. Moving to the Rhode Island School of Design, he hooked up with another student, Martin Bland, who became his gaffer. Martin was a genius in lighting and particularly skilled in movie sets. Martin was a perfect fit for the projects Chihiuly envisioned. The key to his sculptures is the lighting. While at RISD Chihuly received a Fulbright Scholarship and studied glass blowing in Venice.

 

We have seen several of his exhibitions. The one in the Miami Botanical Gardens was interesting, but his major piece in the Bellagio at Las Vegas is well worth the trip.

 

Thomas Kinkade hired more helpers than any living artist, or did before his recent bankruptcy. He owed one gallery three million dollars and some others a million. His operation was in Morgan City, CA, where he leased a 100,000 sq. ft. warehouse. His bio says he has sold over 25 million pieces of art. His staff of “highlighters” is not learning the secrets of painting, but what strokes to use on his prints. I’ve communicated with a couple of his ex-highlighters. One girl was so disillusioned she wanted to give up on art. She left her Kinkade job with suicide on her mind. She felt like she had been part of a swindle. Buyers were led to believe the highlights were done by Thomas. Luckily, I was able to show her life was worth living. We heard from her last year telling us she was in her first art gallery.

 

The next challenge by several readers will be, “Many master artists are teaching workshops.” I totally agree but a week, five days, is not enough to learn the basics of painting. I saw a YouTube video about an artist who boasted she had attended 47 different artist’s workshops. Can you imagine how confused that lady is? She is not there to learn, but so she can use those famous names on her bio, hoping that will help her career. Of course, the names of her instructors won’t help her move up the value meter one notch. The art buying public doesn’t care with whom or where you studied, they are only interested in what you make and if it connects to their heart.

 

Several years ago, a good friend and excellent talent felt he needed to take a workshop under William Reese. He wanted to paint looser. He was like a sponge. His style and palette totally changed. His work became much too loose to sell in his market. His galleries didn’t want the new extremely impressionist style. What seemed to work for Reese, failed for him. The following year he was off to Montana to spend a week with Ovanes Berberian, an excellent Armenian painter taught by his father who, himself, was a master artist. At the end of the workshop Ovanes asked his students to paint a piece for the final party that night. When Ovanes saw my friend’s work he said, “There is a rope in the wood shed. Loop the rope around your neck, toss the end over a tree limb and stand on that bucket. Then I’ll kick the bucket out from under you.” Maybe he wouldn’t have kicked the bucket out, but he was telling my friend to give up making art.

 

I had never seen him so depressed; his idol had just given him the death sentence. His artwork was not worth living for. I was concerned for his safety. That night I took him and his wife to dinner. We found a quiet corner where we could talk. I pointed out how well he had been doing before the two transformations. I kept going on until he could finally smile about Ovanes’ suggestion. From then on, my friend always referred to Ovanes as the “Little General”. After a few weeks he was able to laugh about the incident. I strongly suggested he forget what he had learned in the past two workshops and focus on his own style. I’m happy to report his galleries welcomed the old style back and the last time we spoke, he was getting ready to attend his 30th year celebration show in New Orleans.

 

If what you are doing is working, DON’T change just to be different. Just get better.

 

The problem I find with workshops is the impossibility of learning all that’s being taught. I watch Mikki writing her oils up on her canvas. If she were teaching classes the students would think, “That looks so easy.”  In truth, it takes a lot of practice to get good. Better yet, you need a lot of perfect practice to become skilled. It’s not enough just to practice. You can practice bad habits, which will impede your progress.

 

An artist is lucky to find a few useful tips in a weeklong workshop. Not that a tremendous amount of information is not given, it’s difficult for the brain to separate and collate that knowledge. The best teachers are those who pick a theme a day and hammer that point home. Most of us can learn one thing a day.

 

I’m reminded of the story about a traveling evangelist. Back in the horse and buggy days, he traveled from ranch to ranch preaching the Gospel. He stopped at a spread near Alpine, in West Texas. The old rancher and his wife attended his sermon. The preacher spit Hell, Fire and Brimstone for about three hours. After he finished preaching, he asked the old rancher, “What did you think of my sermon?”

 

“It was pretty good. But there is just one thing I’d change.”

 

Bracing for a theological argument the preacher asked, “What would that be?”

 

“Well preacher, when I go to feed the cattle and only one old cow turns up I don’t dump the whole load.” Those of you who teach art give some thought to narrowing your focus to the vital things your students need to know. Show that you are interested in them learning. Speak in simple terms. Forget the big words that make you appear smart, teach valuable information and they will know you are intelligent.

 

An old African preacher told me how he preached his sermons. “I tell ‘em what I’m going to tell ‘em. Then I tell ‘em. When I’ve finished, I tell ‘em what I just told ‘em.”

 

When teaching Mikki to paint, I would wait until she finished a piece, I had boxed it and the art was shipped. Then, the next day we would look at the photo. I would find one place where she could improve. Taking a tip from the old rancher, I didn’t dump the entire load at one time. She would complain, “How could you let me ship that?”

 

I would reply, “You’ll fix it on the next piece.”

 

The most important thing I did while teaching Mikki to paint was to tell her, “I don’t want you to be a Jack White clone. I don’t want my hand on your brush.” Slowly, over time, there was nothing left for me to teach her. The student had passed the teacher. We accomplished this; one lesson at a time, one painting at a time.

Taos ~Jack White

 

You can spot a David Leffel or Richard Schmid clone when you see their first painting. It’s interesting to thumb through art magazines and see artists copying these and other masters. Copy is all they will ever do, because they will never reach the level of their master. I don’t blame the teachers for being so powerful; it’s the fault of the student not to seek their own level. No matter how well you paint David’s style you will always remain a copy. Your voice will belong to your teacher. Those who stand out have their own original voice.

 

Like in math, there are things we need to do to get our paintings correct. We know 2 + 2 = 4. Yet when looking at paintings, we see so many landscape pieces with no light and only a rare few have a threshold across the foreground. Painting a landscape is more than copying nature. We have to know what to leave out and what to add in. I recall viewing one painting of a tranquil lake with ugly telephone poles marching across the open field. I asked why? His answer, “It was there.” I argued, “You are omnipotent. You have the power to make changes, move things around, toss in a cloud in the sky.

 

A locavore is a person who only eats local foods. Be an artist locavore, learn close to home. Don’t think you have to fly to Hawaii, Montana, France or Italy to learn to paint. Do like I did, I learned solo. What’s the Frank Sinatra song? “I Did it My Way.” You can do it your way.

 

And I’ll leave you with one final thought. If you are self-taught or had very little art training, then what about making a master piece for yourself? You are your own master. I painted a piece a dozen years ago that had the emotional and technical elements I was striving for. We decided not to sell the painting. There have been several offers to buy, but we’ve declined. I now have my Master’s piece.



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Barbara Reich
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Jack - One of my favorite instructors told me to look for instruction (mentoring) from artists who did work that I admired and don't be afraid to move on. If you stay too long you are at risk of losing your own original vision/voice. The knowledge you gain should be put into creating your own path, not a duplicate of theirs. I have been fortunate to study under some of the most wonderfully talented and supportive fine art instructors. For this I am truly grateful. Your sentance "just get better" will be by my easel by days end.
Barb Reich
http://barbarareichstudio.com

Lori Woodward
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Jack, Excellent post!

It came at just the right moment for me and affirmed my current thinking. As many are aware, I have had the fortunate learning experience of participating as a Putney Painter since 2005. I had attended as an occasional guest since 2002, but I did not get an official invitation until one of their members moved away and left a space open for me.

This past "semester" I've decided to give up my spot to someone who has been on the waiting list. Not only because I think someone else should have to chance to learn, but because I'm headed in a different aesthetic direction.

I have never wanted to paint like Richard Schmid, David Leffel or anyone else... well... maybe William Trost Richards (19th century Hudson River School). I have been somewhat "the rebel" of the Putney group, and although Richard and Nancy share artistic principles (it's not a class - they don't actually teach us), I often felt unspoken pressure to paint like the rest of the group.

One of the things I've noticed over the years is that some artists are more left brained than others - they're very good at following directions, and when they study with a master, they end up painting just like that master. Then there are the ADD right-brained people, like myself, who must blaze his or her own trail. If you look at my early school report cards, you'll see my teachers say, "Does not follow instructions or complete assignments".

In fact, I honestly thought that my teachers were holding back on the fact that there is short division... well, doesn't it make sense that if there is long division, there ought to be the short-cut?

Anyway, as I was writing in my journal the last couple of mornings (before painting), I decided to stop looking at other artwork for a time - unless it is something that I absolutely love and am inspired by. Last weekend, my husband and I went to a show of Hudson School Painters, and my heart skipped a beat. I was so moved and inspired - something that hasn't happened for a long time.

Furthermore, I imagine that my leaning toward that style would not be admired in Putney. I often felt like an outcast there, and when I decided to work with watercolor (which is the medium I know best), I was pretty much ignored.

Now, I'm not sharing this with you all to say that having first hand experience with Richard Schmid and Nancy Guzik has been bad or evil in any way. In fact, it was something that catapulted my artwork to the next level. However, I did not abandon my own style, and when I sometimes felt that I needed to do that to feel excepted within the group, I left there depressed and felt like giving up on my work.

Having worked through those issues, gone through menopause, and stopped worrying about what others think of me, I've embarked on my own path - and I am excited and have confidence in it.

Ha Jack! Both you and I are long winded, eh? But I enjoy your posts and read them to the end! You always have something valuable to share, and it's from your heart. Thanks so much for speaking your mind and helping artists to pursue their own path.

With this... I'm off for a short walk and the studio. Thanks!!!

Jim Springett
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Dear Jack,

What a profound artist Jack really is, way beyond his young years, in Texas you keep getting better, not older.(smile)
It was a mircale that Jack's article in the Art Professional stuck, and I contacted him about his experience and his work. That was a couple years ago, actually 4 years now,and Jack has been a very gracious coach, only telling me a little at a time, and get better on the next one is his upbeat philosophy, and like he said to Mikki, he didn't want me to paint like a Jack White clone.

As an artist, I practice a full 7 days a week, and hone my skills, yet the real treasure last year was meeting Jack and Mikki for the first time at their Santa Fe workshop. For those of you who love travel and want to see the enchanted SW, Santa Fe is simply awesome, the art, the history and most importantly the people. One of my favorite studio images is a small 1" by 1" photo of Jack and Mikki and Jack's son and his wife, is attached to my handmade wooden cross with the beautiful tourquoise stone, remember small things are good too, remember the mustard seed, big is not always better, in art that is true too. During their workshop many of the artists who work with Jack and Mikki made this trip and we enjoyed our visit, and felt a real welcome. WE plan to attend their art show this year on Aug 31, Sept 1, in their Santa Fe Gallery, and to visit for more than 4 days, too much to see.

Yesterday, I was not having such a good day, so I knew, my good friend Jack White might have a way of changing the tone so I sent him an image of two sandhill cranes, to share ideas for a new painting, and yep that was a good visit, and today I'm back on the easel painting thse two sandhill cranes.

For those of you like myself, who live in the wilderness and have no art outlets, Jack has a new book, called:
Mystique of Marketing Art on eBay
By Jack White
Paperback: $18.95
Ships in 3-5 business days
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It's amazing how something as simple as eBay can be so difficult to figure out. I knew if millions were selling and buying on eBay the process had to be fairly easy. I knew the test would be false if... More >

Go online, to LULU and type Jack White, all his books will come up, there are some great reads. I'm very grateful for Jack and Mikki, I am able to sell 70 paintings a year, all original oil paintings and has helped me to create a new market for my work. This is now my 4th year on ebay, so thanks Jack and Mikki, for your great and caring friendship. Best wishes, always.

Back to the easel, and watch where you step, you are in cow country(smile).

Jim Springett-wildlife painter

Lori Woodward
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Jim, that's great news about your sales. I have older copies of Jack's art marketing books. They are so informative, and fun to read too!

I've learned a lot from Jack. He's been such a positive influence for my art and life.
Lori


Joyce Wycoff
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Jack ... this is an extremely empowering comment: "The art buying public doesn't care with whom or where you studied, they are only interested in what you make and if it connects to their heart."

It reminds me that while I have to learn and grow, the only truly important result is what shows up in my art and how it connects with potential collectors. Thanks for your wisdom!

Wendy Edsall-Kerwin
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Lately I've been hearing the word "masterpiece" used interchangeably with artwork. As in, when anyone sees a piece of art, they'll say "what a wonderful masterpiece."

In the craft world, there are still some places (mostly in Europe) that follow this practice. I've been thinking about it because I'm finally making a teapot, and often this was what was made as a silversmith's master piece. It's not my master piece, but I love your idea of creating a master piece for yourself.

Once again, a terrific article, Jack!

George De Chiara
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Wonderful post Jack! I have to admit I never fully understood what "masterpiece" meant in the art world and really enjoyed your explanation of it.

Sharon Guy
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Jack,

I wonder if the invention of photography is what led to so many artists merely attempting to record what they see, rather than to create art that expresses something. A painting can express so much more than a photograph.

jack white
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Sharon,
Photographs have been used a long time. Some of the Impressionist artist used photos. We have been taught that they painted en plein air. Some did work outside and then finish the art in their studio. Several worked from black and white photos.
Long before Robinson was using photos, artists were using the camera lucida. Vermeer used a type of camera 500 years ago.
I think the advent of the opaque projector was responsible for the mass production of realism.

It's interesting how many beginners try to paint portraits. They have learned how to project the image and then fill in the blanks. Not realizing the importance in knowing the planes of the head, the three color zones in a human face or the importance of warm reds on the tip of noses and cheeks to pull that part of the face forward.

On second thought, I suspect you are correct. The ease of taking photos has influenced the growth of realism.

I'm always amazed at artists using photos including everything they see in the picture. One dead give a way is electric and telephone lines.

Jack

Julia
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Dear Jack, you have no idea how incredibly serendipitous it is for me to read your article today. I just came back from the Greenhouse Gallery Salon International show, where I had a piece selected. However, I did not win any awards, and looking around the show, I noticed how much my work really looks like I'm a student of David Leffel's. When I started painting 10 years ago, I knew nothing about techniques of painting, so my first step was to take a workshop with David, because his is the work I admired most. Besides idolizing the man and his art, as well as Sherrie McGraw's, in workshop after workshop, I picked up useful techniques, ways of thinking, etc. which improved my art 100 fold. But now I am stuck with the same ways of thinking and working, and my work continues to improve, but have the same look. My question to you, and to all of you helpful artists out there is - what do I do to break away and find my own voice? I naturally gravitate toward the same images, techniques, ways of thinking. It's like a signature - once you have it, it's hard to change your natural inclination. I have read your book, and try to implement your suggestions - foreground, no yellow, etc. etc. but does anyone have any useful tips/things I can work on? I would appreciate anyone's suggestions.PS. I have tried taking workshops with two other artists, with absolutely diseasterous results....

tom weinkle
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Great article Jack. I agree with your comments.

The only thing I'd like to add here is that I think much of the contemporary art being created today is a genre that isn't about skill depending on apprenticeship, etc.

I believe the execution of this type of art... for better or worse doesn't depend on skills developed through practice. I would say that the quality of the concept might. I'm not judging it, or any art that is more skill based, just offering a perspective.

Thanks for sharing and inspiring us.

tom

Lisa
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Jack, you have a heart of gold and I really appreciate the wisdom and experience you share in your posts. Here's a thank you with a big hug!

Lori woodward
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Julia, when I want to add a new diminution to my work, I copy paintings that I love by long-deceased artists. Sometimes the artist is living, but I never show the result to anyone. It's strictly for my own benefit.

If you want to get away from the "Leffel look" try working with a lighter background. Diane Rath used Leffel's formula to learn how to paint, but she eventually blazed her own trail by adding more color and positioning her still life in an unusual way.


Teresa Tromp
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We are very fortunate to be able to learn from you, Jack.

Thank you for sharing so many of your experiences and expertise with us.

jack white
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Julia,
Bless you. One of my pet peeves is art instructors that teach, it's my way or the highway. I've freely helped hundreds of artists and never have I suggested they do it my way. I believe the true teacher gives directions, but doesn't demand their way is the only one.
You can go into galleries today and immediately know who the artists studied with. They don't produce artists, they turn out clones. Shame on them. I read in Leffel's book, "There are only five real artists in America at this time." I guess that means he is one them. I know I wouldn't pass his test and neither would Mikki.

Now to your question. I like what Lori said. I have an added suggestion. Change your color pallet. Go to senkarik.com and she shows my color mixing system. It's very simple. I use a double primary pallet that I came up with in the early 80ies. No earth colors. A warm and cool blue, warm and cool red and a warm and cool yellow. Of course white. The new color mixing system will automatically force you to change your genre. If you want to paint some new things and run them by me, I'm here to help. jack@jackwhiteartist.com .

It's not going to be easy. I remember when Mikki changed from doing equine art to her present day voice. She struggled to paint loose after doing so many tight horse paintings. Then she got too loose. I walked a fine line bringing her back to a little more realism. As Jimmy Springett said in his post today, I never taught much with each lesson. If you feed a horse too much he will gets the colic.

Here is my first lesson. Paint something different using my mixing system, with the intention you will throw it away, no matter how good the results. This will allow you to stretch. If you know the art won't be judged you can paint freely. When you hit on a idea that connects with YOU...then do a few more. After you are comfortable then change your voice.

You did't learn David's style overnight, so don't expect to walk away in a week.

I'm here...my services are free. Jack

Lori woodward
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Jack, i like the idea of painting while thinking you'll throw it away. I'll try it. You're such a sweetheart... And wise to boot! Your best boots.... ;-)

Lori


Michelle Basic Hendry
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Jack;
Brilliant post - thank you for this.
I plan to keep working toward that master piece... And stay determined to keep my own voice.

And thanks for sharing your story, Lori. You are always an inspiration.

Esther J. Williams
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Jack, after I read for 3 hours today from one book Carlson`s Guide to Landscaping, I felt renewed and refreshed. I love to study art in books from the comfort of my home and I love to paint close to home, well within a few hundred miles. Sure it is nice to say you`ve been to France, Italy, Greece, Africa, but does that make one a master? I truly do not believe that I or anyone can make a masterpiece. There is always a mistake in there somewhere, according to the next guy who thinks he is better. We can try all we want, but we are human and nobody is perfect. I will read art books the rest of my life, I am a sponge, but I squeeze out what doens`t resonate with me.
One time I painted a beautiful stone winery in watercolor with gables and dormers, cracks in the stone masonry and all the bells and whistles. I had great aspirations for that piece, I contacted the winery and they wanted to see it for possible prints. I went out of town and came back to find the cat barfed all over it. Masterpiece I thought it was is now destroyed. I laugh about now, but I didn`t back then. I got over calling any of my best works masterpieces.
Anyway, I am just happy to paint and try each time to outdo my own little self. It seems to be working, but I can say that I can only dream of being a master. It is easier to dream. Monet admitted he was no master, but look at how we faint over his works and call them masterpieces. It is an overused term. It will continue to be because people like a hero, someone or something to worship. It`s also human nature so just enjoy the ride if someone comes along and calls you a master or your work a masterpiece. I can only chuckle inside and say if they only knew the torment I went through to create that, the scrapings and reworks.
Oh, by the way, I am teaching a workshop this Saturday and thanks for the advanced notice to be gentle with all that info. I will ask right up front, what one problem are you here to get a solution for? I will start with the basics of art and try to read each person and understand their level, then proceed from there. It is all a matter of what unwinds during the interactions with the attendants. I do not want to call them students, I think they are a lot more than that. I will treat each person holistically. The uniqueness of the person must shine through their art.
As always, thanks Jack, you are a great artist, I love that piece you posted here. I want to call it a masterpiece, okay, there I said it!

Esther J. Williams
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Oops,I meant Carlson`s Guide to Landscape Painting. My son is a landscaper, I must`ve had him on my mind. :)

jack white
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Esther,
I think the best art book I've ever read was John Carlson's amazing book. I learned so much from him. I saw an exhibit of his originals. He not only taught, he did. His thoughts on the four values of a landscape should be something all teachers teach. The problem is most who teach art have never seen his four value teaching. With the sky being the lightest and the upright the darkest. If artists taught these rules their students would learn a lot of useful stuff.
Jack

jack white
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Jimmy,
Thanks for your great words. I will admit I'm really 50, but teaching you has added 30 years to my life. You have the hardest head in Wisconsin. (smile)

I'm really proud of how much you have grown these past four years. You have a bright future when the art economy turns for the better. You are growing and that's special. Not all who paint get better. Some reach a level and cease getting better. A pro is never satisfied.

I've said this before. When I painted Ray Kroc's of McDonalds portrait he told me, "Jack when you are green you are growing, when you get ripe you start to rot."

Jack

Julia
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Lori, thank you so much, that really helps! I will try your advice!

Julia
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Jack, as always, you are there with great, amazing and generous advice - thank you SO MUCh for your suggestions. I am going to try them, and would absolutely love to take you up on your offer to run these new paintings by you. I can't wait to get started!

jack white
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Lori,

I have admired you not becoming a clone for a long time. It takes courage to stay as Brian says, true. You had one of the most powerful art teacher in the country and yet you never gave into the pressure.

I didn't know about the Hudson River School until several years after I started in oils. Probably a good thing, because I love their style. I was amazed by the first exhibit I saw. I think in Washington DC. Since then I've helped several artist who paint in that wonderful style.

I'm looking forward to seeing your growth. Thank you for being a friend.

Jack

Betty Pieper
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As always a great piece. Knowing Mikki's style and seeing Taos by Jack is proof that his hand is not on her brush! For so many years I've longed to paint like my mentor and feel grateful when on occasion I hear his voice over my shoulder though he has been dead long years ago. "Be aware of the whole canvas" or "Stand back". "A beautiful counterpoint; you may want to unify some areas." How easy to long for some direction at times - and especially if it could help me paint "like Sal." However, in reading Jack's piece I realized that the last thing I would want to be is a clone of anyone!

Ned Mueller
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Hi Jack...I have been reading quite a few of your pieces and think that you have a lot of good things to say and I know that you reach a lot of people. I hope that you take what I am about to say in the same spirit that most of us should take yours. I really think that your own work would improve greatly if you could see more as an "Artist"..what I am saying is not to see things so literally, not as a mountain, trees, cattle, etc..buy to see more "Abstractly" for lack of better words. To see things as an interesting or beautiful arrangements of shapes and color. I have been teaching for over 50 years and once the student can start seeing or thinking like that they really start doing "Art" and often find their unique voice..they no longer are copying, but interpeting things. I know you are selling your work for large sums of money, but in all honesty to me it lacks that quality of being Art. Now you can say...what is the definition of art, that is fine, but I think a lot of very good artists would feel the same way. Maybe others have said the same thing to you and why would you want to change when you are making so much..I only say this as I see so many artists short change themselves with limitations they don't necesssarily need...I also know that real good art can be bad business. There are also other barriers to keep people from realizing their full creative side and I don't have the time to go into that.

Lori woodward
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Thanks Jack. I appreciate your support -means a lot.

Donald Fox
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This is a powerful article that should be required reading in art schools. Thankfully, I had several great teachers. Neither of them taight me anything about painting. They taught me about being and learning - be who you are and learn whatever is necessary. You are your own best teacher. One was a sculptor and the other a writer. I'm grateful every day.

Donald Fox
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taught - not taight. Lord, I'm almost starting to sound Texan. This thing needs an edit button.

Susie Cassens
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It is refreshing to hear someone else not want clones because that is how I feel too. I know it sounds strange but I don't demonstrate my work. I walk my students through the basics of drawing then into painting. I am always excited to see their individual styles come out in their work and subject matter.I encourage them to study with others to learn more techniques, etc. I enjoy teaching what I love to do.

Esther J. Williams
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Whoah Ned, let Jack alone. There are all styles of art.

Jim Springett
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Lori,

Thanks for the positive comments, and since working in science during my 3M years, being able to work creativiely and paint is a real honor and privilege, and painting is just like nothing else I have done before. I enjoy reading your painting blogs, and hope you continue, they are very full of knowledge, and very helpful, good work.

Back to the easel in the morning, those sandhill cranes need some work, yes Jack and Mikki have been great art masters, and teachers but most of all, the most wonderful friends, and no judging and no complainting. I respect that greatly, and he does for others as he would have others do unto him, and he lives by that, and that sums up his whole life, doing for others. He is a chip off the ole block.
JIm Springett-wildlife painter



jo allebach
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Jack, I am so happy you are so kind and generous with your advice and ideas. Thank you ever so much. I have tried to paint differently but find it always comes back around to how I am. I am now thankful for that. All I want to do is be better. I am also happy to receive Mikki's email every day as the paintings and photos are so beautiful.

jack white
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Ned,

Good Morning,
There are a couple of things you need to know about me. I was about 42 or 43 before I ever tried to paint in oils. I didn't become an artists until I was 38. So to say I got in the game late is an understatement. I've been playing catch up for 42 years.

I've never taught art for money. I help a lot of people free. I'm one who believed those who can do and those that can't teach. No offense meant to you. I'm sure you are an excellent teacher.

My question to you. How well does your art sell?

I've managed to be very successful selling my 'sub par' art. Collectors paying $40,000 for a 30x40 never noticed my lack of expansion or use of abstraction.

The Taos painting was done in 1983. I'd only been painting in oils for only five years. There are many changes I'd make today. I was not showing the piece as an example for others to follow, but of something I have done.

I'm also 80 years old. In truth my eyes are not good enough for me to see my brush hit the canvas. Even with new glasses I can't see well enough to paint. I have turned down several large portraits commissions, because I couldn't reach the level I have as my goal.

I'm sure your advice would have been great 30 years ago. You are a little late. Now if you could teach me to write, I'd say much obliged. My days are spent writing books and helping artists.

Ned, my only goal as a painter was to make art that connected with the buying public. I was never part of the art community and didn't try to be. I wanted that old rancher to kick the mud off his boots and say, "My wife looks like she could walk out of that frame."

If my client was pleased, then I had done what I set out to do.

I'm too old to worry about what I might have done. I'm trying to cram my day's with things that please me. I know my time left is very limited.

Thanks for your honesty and your willingness to give this old broken down cowboy some help.

Jack

Julia
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Jack, all I have to say is that you are an amazing human being - I was tearing up when I read your reply to Ned. How do you cultivate that kind of attitude - or are you born with it?

jack white
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Ned,
Looked at your work. I couldn't find your website. I hope you have one. If not then Clint and FASO can help.

From the art I saw you are an excellent painter. There are a two thoughts I'd like to share.

You don't use a threshold that would add depth and distance to your work. The addition of a threshold (shadow across the front of your painting) would give your landscapes more pop. The use of a threshold allows the viewer to visually step into your scene. The distant light draws the viewer into your art. Many of the old masters used this technique to their advantage.

I noticed your catch light was in the pupil of one of your portraits. This tends to make the eye dead and the person looks like they are on drugs. Place the catch light at 11 or 1 o'clock at the edge of the pupil. Then place the reflected light directly across on the iris at 5 or 7 o'clock. This is where the color of the eye is shown in the iris. I learned this from studying Sargent, Chase, Adams and other noted portrait painters. Since the eye is like a marble the light shines through the cornea illuminating the iris opposite the catch light.

Hope this helps. Jack

Mark Edward Adams
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Although sometimes is it not readily visible, I do believe the mentor system is alive and well in the art community. It can be difficult to find at first, but if you have the heart and passion you can find an accomplished artist to take you under their wing. I have been mentored by two artists for years now and their artistic lineage goes back to Europe. Most of the younger guys I know know all studied with someone well known.

And I think workshops are extremely valuable. Even Bill Reese took a workshop with Simon Kogan a few years before he passed. Personally I will go anywhere to get better. I think styles do change and your gallery may not like it, but then you have the responsibility to find the new market. You need to change.... look at Picasso, Rodin, even Michelangelo. They all got looser.

Mark

Ned Mueller
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I kind of knew I would get the reactions that I did...I did not know your age or other circumstances and was mostly trying to pass on some advice that I think is good for all artists at just about any age...I guess I was very fortunate to get very excellent drawing and painting at one of the best Art Schools in the country and then made a point to take workshops with some of the best artists in the country. I feel very fortunate to get that kind of exposure and try and pass it on to others. I appreciate that their are all kinds of styles, but also know that what I was saying is not necessary related to style or tight or looseness. I appreciate your critique, but I was also taught not to paint so much by formula and I think that is also one of the main points to be made in finding ones own voice. I think I also realize now that a lot of peoples ideas on art, including my own are or do become part of our own philosophy. I think they are also rooted in our own psychological make up and often discussion can be made very moot.

jack white
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Mark,
Age tend to make us looser. Monet eyes left him making him paint very loose. Likewise with Rodin. Also artists who are swamped with work will paint faster, thus looser to supply the demand. I think this is what happened to Michelangelo. He began to crank out work to fill his demand. Nice problem to have.(smile)

I think it's not fair for a gallery who is selling our work well to have us change our voice. It would be better to take the new stuff to another gallery and continue to supply the original gallery with the old voice. I know how hard it is for a gallery to establish an artists. They put a lot of effort into building a client base for an artist.

Workshops are helpful, but it's not good to do dozens. You end up confused. In the end we have to find our own voice. Jack

Ned Mueller
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Mr. White Just a few more comments and I will get off this thing..I realize I should have known more about you before I said anything as you did toward me. I have had a lot of success as an artist and I do not teach because I cannot paint..I am a Master Artist as designated by the Oil Painters of America, which is not given out easily and participate in some of the very best shows in the country. I teach because I truly enjoy it and want to help others. I do not teach formulas, but try and teach "Art" and that is very difficult to do as for the most part one cannot teach art as that part comes from the individual, but we can teach "the process" which goes on all our life. I am sorry that I put myself in a position to have to defend myself and think that I have learned to be a little less judgemental in reaction to comments and apologize for the criticism that I passed on to you. I have had a lot of advantages and opportunities that you never had in the Art World and am glad that you are able to do what you are doing with what you have. Keep up the good work and I wish you well!

Esther J. Williams
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Ned, I completely understand where you were coming from. I study 'art' and the most intense focus for myself has been in the aspects of contemporary art and design in the past 32 years since I began college courses in it. I was broken from traditional art by my French professor. But there are artists who were classically trained and Jack White appears to be one of those.
At my age, I see art so differently than I did decades ago, learning is a wonderful thing for the mind. Grasping what true art is a complex journey, it takes time when one has been schooled the former way. I can still retrogress if I do not think about the abstract elements of art. Also, when one is doing commissions like Jack has and I have, we have to please the public. That can get us into making art for the public appeal and it can be dangerous, formulaic and illustrative. I am painting a commission right now and I want to put my artistic license into it and still paint the scene to satisfy my customers. If I do not satisfy them, the large sum of money is forfeited. So, I hope you can see from that point of view.
I came to Jack`s defense because I like the guy for one thing and I think it would be more appropriate to privately message someone like him, His articles are public on here and approximately 28,000 readers receive it in their email boxes. He has a lot of pride, it was hurt. I did not mean to sound offensive to you. To each his own as they say. Like I said I know what you are talking about and I have hurdled the fence to become a life-long student of modern art. But I have to give credit to those who use great technical skills in creating the still beautiful traditional art.
Have a peaceful day.

tom weinkle
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I can relate to what Ned and Jack both said. I strongly believe in using developing and using one's voice, trained by others, or developed on its own.

I respect hard work and dedication, even if the art does not appeal to me.

Sales are a funny thing. What works in one market may not in another. I recall Jack, Lori, LuAnn and others talking about finding and nurturing your collectors...whatever it is you paint...loose, tight, primitive, abstract, etc. I remember Albert Handell saying that "I'm not looking to appeal (sell) to everyone, just a group that connects with my art" That's what I try to live by. It seems the most successful artist did fine with that philosophy.

Gentlemen, thank you both for being candid and clear.

jack white
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Ned,
As we say in Texas, "Much Obliged."

I've followed your career for years. You are a top talent.

No apology needed. You simply stated what you felt would help me. You had no way of knowing I'm past being helped. I have never mentioned to anyone about my failing eyesight. I honestly appreciate you willing to give. I try not to burden my readers with my physical problems. They need encouragement not my complaints.

The reason I wrote the seven books on marketing art is so I can give back to the art industry that has been so good to me. I give a lot of books away when artists can't afford to buy.

Ned in the mid 1970s I was earning between $500,000 and $750,000 a year selling my art. I gave up the gold leaf process so I could learn to paint in oils. I spent three years practicing, throwing all I did away. I learned enough to sell all I could produce.

I was never a joiner. I could have been a member of the CA at the prime of my career. I knew several members, but I went El Solo Lobo. I didn't want to be a Cowboy Artist, but a painter.

I have done portraits of many famous people and sports stars. That would not have been possible had I joined the CA.

You are a good man and I'm sure your students come away with improved skills.

Let's shake hands and be friends. Jack

Lori Woodward
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This conversation has got me thinking and I feel a blog of my own coming on ;-)...

Anyway, I've been fortunate to have studied with some of the greatest teachers of our time, in an atelier situation with high level academic principles, in more casual workshops as I wrote for Workshop Magazine and got to attend for free as the author of the article, with Jack Beal and Sondra Freckelton - my very first mentors (where I learned about composition and watercolor painting).

Then finally with Richard Schmid as a Putney Painter for the last decade. While there, I have learned also from Jeremy Lipking, Daniel Keys, Albert Handell, Diane Rath, Clayton Beck... and so on... you get the idea.

I am grateful that I've had a variety of teachers - which has given me a well-rounded education in art. I do have a degree in fine art education, but I have to say I didn't learn anything at the University.

Having this variety of teachers with various philosophies and approaches has helped me to connect the dots, taking what is most useful to me as I pursue my lifelong fascination with art. Each school, if you will, provided me with a separate set of principles and techniques.

Interestingly, ego has always been involved to some extent. Because I studied with each mentor for a number of years, I became aware that I hurt my mentors' feelings/pride when I moved onto a different instructor. While some instructors were happy for me, others felt like I'd gone over to the dark side.

I like variety! I want to see what can be done from every possible angle, and there are so many styles and subjects of art that I love to look at. When it comes to drawing/painting though, I choose what makes my heart sing, and now as I am older, I'm listening to my own voice and blazing my own trail. Walking my own path does NOT mean ignoring a solid art education! I embrace it apply what I've learned as well as I am able.

What's been really fun for me is to paint along side of Richard, Nancy, Jeremy and others - then go out to eat! At other times, I go down to the local farmers' market and paint with local artists that most people have never heard of.. we have a great time, and then we go out to eat!!

Here's what I think: I love to look at fine art and craft, but in my book, people will always be more important than any work of art or even the artist. I've met a few artists who are masters, but not very much fun to hang out with. (Richard is such a nice guy - not talking about him).

I'm really glad that this conversation has worked out in a positive way. At this time, when I am making big changes (by leaving Richard Schmid as a mentor), it's helped me once again to look at the big picture - from a distance and know that if we all painted exactly alike and for the same reasons, there would only be one art community worth talking about - and that would get old pretty fast.

Is everybody happy now? I hope so! Every accomplishment should be acknowledged. Working as a full time artist is difficult enough.
Lori


Delilah
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Jack,

You are so right about just getting down and doing it. The more I paint the better I get. When I have a problem I try to figure it out.

I bought 2 of your books years ago when I was just getting back into art full time and they were helpful. Like having a friend to talk to.

jack white
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Esther...I love you. Here is an Internet hug.

Donald, Texan is contagious. You have to take immune shots to keep from getting infected.

Jack

Jim Springett
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Yes Esther, your feeling on the whole subject the past couple of days have been true, see you speak from your heart and there is where the box of wisdom comes from.

You all....see I'm doing it now with the Texas slant, I probably cleaned a lot of barns in my day, and cows are great.....sorry for the digression. What I started to say, is so many of you fine men and women have studied so greatly, in very disciplined art schools, through working directly with masterful artists, workshops, and by your own skill developemnt over many, many years of painting. Hmmmm, I got that all out, I just want to share a tinyweenee story, of how I was impacted as a 5 year old in a great Museum in Toledo, after having visited this museum for many years, starting when I was only 5 years old, I never forgot the magnificent beauty of so many gifted artists and much later in my life, when I was 43 years old, I was moved by the spirit to paint, to draw and to grow on this miraculous artistic journey. My education was a small spiral notebook and pencil doing sketches, and being encouraged by my grandparents stuck too. My goals as an artist have been very simple, to share the magnificent beauty that I see on our earth and in the sky, for this is our home. Not to put myself above others, no to simply thank God everyday, for his blessings.
So each of us as artisits no matter where our journey started, I think is the same, to paint and to sing our soulful praises, and the circle of love goes unbroken again and again and again. That is mighty special in my book, for in the sharing, much good begets good, and there is a peace.
I thank many of you on faso, those guest bloggers too, who share so much passion and love for what your journey means. I am very fortunate to have Jack and Mikki guide me, you are both very special, even as hard as my head is, that's another story, like Jack said no complaints about ailments, I won't ether.
Back to my sandhill crane painting, my easel is calling.....
JIm Springett-wildlife painter

Lori Woodward
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Jim, thanks for sharing your story... I enjoyed hearing it. Most of us were first inspired by art as children. I grew up with a single mom... we lived under the poverty level (but I didn't know it), and I drew on loose-leaf notebook paper.

I have loved being able to make friends online over these past few years, to build each other up and applaud achievements big and small. Thanks to all of you for contributing. I personally am so glad that Jack is alive and even though he may not be able to see very well, his mind sure is as sharp as a tack!

One of my very best instructors was at Catalina High School in Tucson. She taught light, shadow, shape, and basic color theory... in fact, more than anyone taught me in 4 years of college. I was well equipped by taking her classes every semester.

Esther... I just got your email newsletter! You go Girl!!! I can't believe all you're going to be involved in this coming year. You must be excited.


Esther J. Williams
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Jack, I love you too and here`s a big hug back! I only wish I could meet Mikki and you someday. I have a brother in San Antonio Texas, I haven`t seen in 20 years. It might be time to plan a trip when I can figure it out.

Jimmy, thanks, I just can shut my mouth sometimes. Sometimes it gets me into trouble. But I must speak what I feel pounding in my heart. It is true that we are all learning from each other in this forum, I felt that strongly today. A great energy went through the air to many hearts and minds from this article. We all felt it that read all the comments.

Lori, it was great to hear back from you. We have something in common, although I was from a 2 parent family, there were 10 of us and I learned to draw on butcher paper at the age of 3 or 4. The older I get the foggier the memory is. I clearly remember that paper on a wooden floor with me going wild.

Now, I too must paint at the easel because it is staring me in the face here to my left. Peace to all.

Ned Mueller
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Thanks everyone for your input and graciousness in tolerating my comments even though I spoke without thinking enough of who my audience was. I don't often speak in these forums, but I think I learned more about how to say something and when, so I don't trample on others feelings. And again apologize to Jack as I think I did hurt his feelings and to his credit he didn't retaliate in real sour terms. Most of us have been on the brunt end of these things also and I for one will try not to kick the next soul that comes around. Not unusual to go through these kind of things and come out better on the far end...not sure if it is mostly a guy thing. In art school some of the teachers that were the hardest on us are those who we learned a lot from... but, there again that is not a necessity to be that way..so much is often determined by personality and style. I learned long ago as far as learning goes that if the students are having fun and not too serious and putting critcism in a hunmorous way they do learn more! I think that it is probably best to express our own points of view and withhold judgement on others until more information is known..plenty of examples of that in our everyday news and talk programs. Looking forward to hearing more subjects and comments. I have new found respect for you Jack and also some of the other people who commented. Best to you all.

Lori Woodward
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Ned, of course I can't speak for everyone who has commented, but I so appreciate your response. All's well that ends well!



Sean McCann
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Jack,
Thank you for reminding me of the true origins of the word “Masterpiece”. I believe only the true Masterpiece makes the most profound connection between us, the work, the artist and the source. In a modern day context the word masterpiece to describe a work of art is overused, often with no real justification. So called experts continually debate the nature of the Masterpiece, and this varies greatly depending on their point of view regarding what constitutes great art. This brings me to another good point you highlight and that is the nature of influential teachers, their styles and opinions on art, and consequentially the affect they have on the student and their development. From personal experience I believe there are two types of teacher: namely the ones who indoctrinate students to their way of working being the only way and other teachers who give constructive critique to the student's process allowing them to develop and find your own way, a way that is correct for them. I believe the later is the correct way. In the end, when the art student has left college and is in the big wide world, they have to be able to find their own way. I do think that many artists stop creating at this point, because they have become disillusioned with what they are doing. This could be because the way they are creating is not really deep down the way they should be creating. They are making someone else's work. Often, it is only after a long time away from peer pressure and old influences that the artist can truly begin the process of finding themselves and making the art that is true to them. Great art has to come from your own truth and truth comes from our most profound connection to life and not the following of a particular movement or style. Only then can the Masterpieces begin.
Sean.


Sean McCann
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Jack, Thank you for reminding me of the true origins of the word "Masterpiece". I believe only the true Masterpiece makes the most profound connetion between us, the work, the artist and the source. In a modern day context the word masterpiece to describe a work of art is overused, often with no real justification. So called experts continually debate the nature of the Masterpiece, and this varies greatly depending on their point of view regarding what constitutes great art. This brings me to another good point you highlight and that is the nature of influential teachers, their styles and opinions on art, and consequentially the affect they have on the student and their development. From personal experience I believe there are two types of teacher: namely the ones who indoctrinate students to their way of working being the only way and the other teachers who give constructive critique to the student's process allowing them to develop and find their own way, a way that is correct for them. I believe the later is the correct way. In the end, when the art student has left college and is in the big wide world, they have to be able to find their own way. I do think that many artists stop creating at this point, because they have become disillusioned with what they are doing. This could be because the way they are creating is not really deep down the way they should be creating. They are making someone else's work. Often, it is only after a long time away from peer pressure and old influences that the artist can truely begin the process of finding themselves and making art that is true to them. Great art has to come from your own truth and truth comes from our most profound connection to life and not the following of a particular movement or style. Only then can the Masterpieces begin!

Carol Schmauder
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I always love to read your articles, Jack. They are full of information and I always learn something from them. This article is no exception. Thank you for so freely sharing your knowlege.

jack white
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Ned,
I can't let this tread stop with you thinking you hurt my feelings. You didn't.

1. You were trying to help. You had no way of knowing that was an early piece, which by the way I was very proud of.

2. We have to give permission for our feeling to be hurt. When you have lived this long, it takes something really harsh to get to you. When you reach my age you will understand. (smile)

3. I was out of line to slam you about teaching. That was a cheap shot. It was based on my thoughts toward art teachers in general. All too many teach, my way of the highway. It was good to hear you say you teach the why instead of my. I bet you are an excellent instructor. Wish I could have run into you almost 40 years ago.

4. When an artist has achieved what I have starting so late, it's almost impossible to hurt my feeling or tweak my ego. I'm really secure in who I am and what I've achieved. Most of all I'm pleased with the 7 art marketing books I've published and the fourth historical novel I'm working on. I graduated with a football education.

I seldom get angry over what I think is an insult, life it too brief to get upset. My anger comes when I see others taken advantage of. I've learned to keep my ego in my pocket.

An old broken down cowboy

Eugene
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One might argue that those who "cant do" are better teachers than those who "can do" and teach. As Jack said the influence of those who "can do" invariable rubs off on their students. We all have see that happen.

jack white
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Jackie Jackson

I have no other way to tell you, my emails to you are coming back. I've emailed two times and each one bounced.

I was trying to tell you I enjoyed your article.

Did you pay to have the work exhibited. You can answer to my email. Jack

Jana Botkin
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Jack, what a reassuring article! And no one else's articles elicit as much discussion as yours - very impressive. Also impressive is the civility and kindness within the comments.

Your article gives me hope that I can learn without a teacher (tried every which way to Sunday to find someone around here and failed).

it gives me hope that I will learn to paint well despite coming late to it.

It gives me hope that I can learn to paint without attending workshops, which don't fit into my life anyway.

And, it gives me hope that I'm not on a path to no where by following and improving my own style!

GOD BLESS YOU, JACK WHITE!!

(excuse me for shouting - sometimes I just get a bit overly excited!)



Ned Mueller
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Hi Jack...apologize for getting back late..was teaching a workshop across the harbor and had no internet access. Thanks for you gracious remarks and no you did not have to apologize either, but it was gracious of you. Enjoy your comments..certainly don't agree all of the time, but that is the way of life. It is hard for people to sort out what works for them..particularly in Art and when one is looking for answers and not always sure what questions and how to present them. Looking forward to your next column... next week I amgoing on a month long painting trip to England with artist friends and really looking forward to that as I have not been there yet. Hope to get to meet you some day and buy you a drink...have a great Bar story to tell! Keep up the good work. Ned

Donna Robillard
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I read your whole article. Thank you for educating those of us, at least those of us who did not know, about the term 'masterpiece'. I always appreciate a workshop instructor who actually works with the students and can help him/her develop skills. I do find it important to go in with a teachable mind and spirit.

David Randall
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I was born into a family of artists. I know no other way of life. I went to two well known art schools in NYC. It was drawing and painting 8 hrs/day every day. The instructors would come into the class one day a week to give some instruction and critique our work. The rest of the week we practiced and tried to understand what had been taught. Sometimes it took three weeks to figure out what the teacher was saying. Then the eureka moment when I would understand and wonder why it had taken me so long. Much of the time in schools is self teaching as well because you can not understand even the one thing taught quickly. It's the Malcolm Gladwell 10,000-hour rule at work. I left school and had to do time to outgrow my teachers and teaching. I sometimes learned as much from observing my fellow students as from the teacher. Whatever works!

Steve McArthur
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Hello Jack,

I just "discovered" you and Mikki today and have been reading and looking for several hours now. Having lived in the Texas panhandle in my youth (I'm 63 now) I relate to your "style". I'm also a retired businessman, I know how to run a business and make sales.

I was an art major for a couple of years before Uncle Sam required my assistance for 4 years in the late sixties. So, my art skills lay dormant for many years with only an occasional resurrection in the form of a drawing or pen and ink. I had tried painting but everything I painted turned out muddy and didn't look as good as my drawings.

Finally, about 6 months ago I made the decision to once and for all learn how to paint. I have made good progress in the last 6 months but I'm doing what a lot of people do nowdays which is watch DVD's, read books and copy other paintings.

I have been considering concentrating my efforts into just one teacher. I've looked at the http://www.virtualartacademy.com/full_painting_course.html course taught by Barry John Raybould. http://www.bjrgallery.com/index.html. He teaches solely by the written word and examples. He does not use videos in his course.

Jack, if you were at the crossroads that you found yourself at years ago when you wanted to learn how to paint, would you have taken this course?

If anyone else has an opinion about The Virtual Art Academy I would be interested in what you have to say.

jack white
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Steve McArthur

Email me at my address so we don't clutter up FASO.
I'll give you some direction.
jack@jackwhiteartist.com
Jack










 

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