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Questions You Don't Have to Answer: Can You Do Better On The Price?

by Luann Udell on 3/1/2012 7:32:01 AM

This post is by Luann Udell, regular contributing author for FineArtViews.  Luann also writes a column ("Craft Matters") for The Crafts Report magazine (a monthly business resource for the crafts professional) where she explores the funnier side of her life in craft.  She's a double-juried member of the prestigious League of New Hampshire Craftsmen (fiber & art jewelry).  Her work has appeared in books, magazines and newspapers across the country and she is a published writer.  She's blogged since 2002 about the business side--and the spiritual inside--of art.  She says, "I share my experiences so you won't have to make ALL the same mistakes I did...."You should submit an article and share your views as a guest author by clicking here.

 

Someone once said there are two kinds of people in the world:  Those who think there are two kinds of people in the world and those who don’t. 

 

So forgive me when I say there are two groups of artists in the world:  Those who are willing to discount their artwork and those who aren’t. 

 

If you are in the first group, please, read no further.  I get that many artists are totally comfortable with offering discounts.  It’s a growing trend.  After all, when even designer stores and luxury goods are open to bargaining, it seems short-sighted not to go along.  (Although, come to think of it, you might learn a better way to bargain in this article.  So do read on!)

 

I won’t put myself firmly in the second group, but almost every time I’ve discounted my work, I’ve been sorry later.  People have a tendency to brag when they get a deal and that could get back to your full-price paying customers—or galleries.  Also, people tend to think of discounts as a lifetime offer.  I offered a small, limited-time discount at a show years ago.  Some customers continue to ask for it years later.  As far as a discount creating a repeat customer, I personally have not had that happen.  The one time I gave in to a requested discount for “a good cause” and a deserving venue, I found out the person had approached every artist at the show with that argument and none of us have seen her since.

 

But whether you discount or not, you WILL get asked this question.  And even if you never discount your work, there are ways to keep the conversation going:

 

  • If you DO offer discounts, ask THEM what kind of discount they’re looking for.  DON’T OFFER FIRST. If someone is hoping to nudge a $450 piece down $50, and you offer them a 25%, you’ve just told them they’re paying way too much if they’d paid full price. If you let them offer first, and they suggest $400, then you can say, “Mmmmm….I could do $425.” They’ll feel like they got a deal, you don’t feel like you caved.

 

  • DON’T fall for, “Well, I’ll pay you what a gallery would pay you.”  Unless you never want to work with a gallery again.  Granted, gallery representation is not what it used to be, and you may prefer retail anyway.  But sometimes it’s good to be associated with a gallery or two.  And this kind of arrangement will shut that door fast and hard.  (Yes, it will get back to them.)  And again, every other customer will feel like an idiot for paying your full price.

 

  • If you’re going to offer a discount, think about WHO you’re offering a discount to—a new prospect who hasn’t even stepped up to the plate yet?  Or a valued, loyal customer?  Personally, I’d rather do a deal with someone who’s stepped up to my plate over and over again, someone who’s already invested their hard-earned money in my work in the past.  Not a tire-kicker.  The worst feeling in the world is when you offer a great deal to a prospect, and they turn it down.  You’ve just told them your work isn’t worth the sticker price, and they’ve told you it isn’t even worth your discounted price!

 

  • I found this discount rebuttal in a series of sales tips by a Coca Cola distributer.  I love it! It’s called “NO, but if…..”  Understand that some customers will ask for the moon.  Stand firm, but open a new door.    “No, I can’t discount this piece, but if you personally introduce me to XYZ Fancy Schmancy Gallery in your city, I’ll create a custom piece just for you for the same price, with no design fee.” “No, I can’t do that.  But if you buy this painting, I can offer you 10% off your next purchase.”  Or feature their purchase on your website.  Or offer a copy of that posh show catalog from the exhibit it appeared in. Or offer to deliver and hang the piece.  Or ask THEM for something.  “No, I can’t discount this piece for you in return for displaying it in your office for your well-heeled customers to see.  But if you purchase it at full-price and display it in your office, I’ll give you 10% off your next piece for every one of your customers who buys a piece from me.”

 

  • Offer something besides a discount.  What ELSE can you offer?  What can you cover (cost-wise) more easily?  Hanging? Free shipping? An artist appearance?  Offer something else, an add-on, in place of a discount.  It’s easy for me to add on a pair of earrings to an expensive necklace or sculpture, or a pin with a wall hanging.  (I want the full price, even if I have to throw in something else.)  In fact, the best thing to offer can be….

 

  • LAYAWAY!  I’ve described my layaway plan in previous columns.  When someone says they can’t afford my price, I ask them how they can afford.  Then I offer to set them up with a layaway plan for that amount each month, until they reach their purchase goal.  They can make out checks or credit slips and predate and sign them.  The beauty of this is, they often realize they can charge it, take the work home today, and make their own monthly payments. 

 

  • Let them know the value of what you give them.  Put it in the invoice!  List the full price of the piece, describe the discount (‘one-time 25% discount for being a long-standing patron of my work!”) or the extra bennie (“FREE framing—retail value $250” or “FREE delivery—retail value $125”)  People will forget!  Sometimes they’ll come back and say, “Well, I bought one just like this for $500 last year, and now it’s $650!” You’ll be able to say, “You actually bought a similar piece that was unframed for that price.  I did that for you because you loved the piece so much, but didn’t want the added expense of the frame.”

 

  • Finally, It’s okay to say no.  Many artists refuse to offer discounts.  Just stay polite and centered, and take no offense if asked for one.  It’s okay to say, “I’m honored that you like my work so much.  I know my prices are fair—in fact, I tend to underprice my work already!  If you’d like to see a less expensive piece, I have a few over here you might enjoy as much as this piece.” 

 

Whatever you decide, be ready for the question.  Think of how you want to play it.  Practice your response until you’re comfortable with it.  It should flow naturally.

 

And be glad there’s a customer in your booth who really wants your work! 



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Rosemarie Adcock
via faso.com
Wow! Great article and great suggestions. What a struggle it can be trying to make an on-the-spot decision about a discount while the client is watching you think things through. The excitement of selling a piece can cloud one's thinking in the moment the client is waiting for an answer. And you are right, it is awful if later we feel we made a mistake in the discount. Far better to be prepared with a policy up front, even if it's a policy of our own making, to guide us in the moments when we need it most. I suppose we can call the on-the-spot negotiating "impulse discounting"...just as tricky as impulse buying. And usually as non-rewarding in the end. Thanks, Luann!

Barbara Reich
via faso.com
Luann - Discounts can be a slippery slope. Knowing full well that a sale (from a Gallery or your home studio) can be lost if you don't offer "something", I have agreed to a 10 percent discount in the past. The customer initially wanted more, but a simple explination that previous work of that size and quality have been sold at full price usually does the trick. It is easier for them to accept a smaller discount when they recognize that you are consistant and fair in your pricing, and that you won't give the next customer in line a far greater discount than what they just received. It's important that they feel confident in their purchase. Having said that, loyal repeat customers are very important to any working artist, and special considerations should not be ruled out.
Barb Reich

Kirk Witmer
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"Why yes, I have on occasion discounted prices as a way of saying 'thank you' to collectors who have regularly and consistently supported me as an artist by purchasing my work. And this one could be the first purchase that starts you on that path. Now, which credit card would you like to use today?"

How's that one sound?

jack white
via faso.com
Luann,
As you know we make everyone who buys one of Mikki's pieces a Member of Team Senkarik. This automatically qualifies them for a 10 percent savings. We don't use the term DISCOUNT. Saving is a much better word.

Giving discounts is like feeding your dog snacks while dining. The dog comes to expect a few snacks when we sit down to eat.

So many art galleries are opening their conversations with, "Today we are giving 20 percent discount on several pieces of art today. I get a sick feeling when I hear a gallery offer a discount up front.

Hugs, jack

Lena
via faso.com
There is one other answer "Yes I offer discounts. How MANY are you buying/ordering today?"

Nina Allen Freeman
via faso.com
Great article! Years ago when I was first starting out, one of my paintings was accepted into a national show. The President called me to say someone wanted to buy my piece but wanted to know if I would accept a discounted price and named a price. I didn't know beans so accepted the price. Later I learned nobody does this, especially with a painting in a national show! I have regretted it but it was a valuable lesson. Your article outlines excellent guidelines to discount or not to discount.
Nina

Sharon Weaver
via faso.com
Thanks for the reminder that there are always alternatives to suggest when confronted with a request for a discount. Offering a 10 percent discount on their next purchase is a wonderful idea.

McKenna Hallett
via faso.com
GREAT stuff as usual, Luann!

I have a standard line when anyone asks for a discount that might be useful for some here. It not only keeps discounts from happening, but also puts my work into a favorable light:

"I would love to offer a discount, but I am in the top galleries throughout this state and don't want them to think I am competing with them or them might not continue to represent my work."

In other words... I am telling them the truth. LOL. They not only drop the subject, they often say, "Oh, I don't want you to get in any trouble."

I always smile and reassure them that, "Well, it never hurts to ask." and immediately pick up my invoice and start writing - at least the date if nothing else to show them I am ready when they are and they usually respond by handing me an item or two.

Gotta love the truth...it's a goldmine. Of course, this only works if you are in galleries somewhere, but most of the readers here probably are in at least one.

Jan
via faso.com
Layaway - I do layaway - and I charge no interest on the payments - BUT - if you are giving the customer the artwork before it is paid off, that's a HUGE mistake. If you do that, you are missing the concept of "layaway". Once the piece is paid, in full, then and ONLY then do you release it to the client.

Jan
via faso.com
And as for the galleries offering discounts when people walk in the door - yeah, well, I own one of those, too - tough sledding it is these days. Artwork is not on peoples to-do list in many cases - so to get them in the mindset of thinking is might be on their radar TODAY, since the discount was verbalized, a sale might be made where otherwise, the customer walks around the gallery and looks at many things, says how much they like this and that, but won't pull the trigger - it's the customer who, on the way out the door says " I love this place! You have so many gorgeous things!" - which is the thing they say instead of what they REALLY mean - " I saw a number of things I would like to have but they're not something I can justify buying" - and while that is an understandable statement, it doesn't help the gallery keep the doors open. Sometimes, we feel like museums. And many times it's a customer who is shopping for a gift - and gifts, folks, with only a very few exceptions, have a price ceiling. Think about that. How much would YOU spend on a gift for a friend? Much of the time, it ends up being something very small that is purchased, because of the price point. I suppose bringing in some of the other blog posts about creating different price point items for customers comes into play here too, but that's where galleries have found themselves, lately.

Sue Betanzos
via faso.com
What a great article on a subject that every artist has faced. It's so tempting to cave in and make a sale when things are slow. I gave a couple of discounts thinking that it would bring in more sales - it didn't.
Now I just smile and tell them I no, but can put the piece on layaway, I do have other pieces in a lower price range and I welcome commissions that will fit their budget.
The last is what I get most, commissions. I set up an appointment right then while I have their attention and secure a deposit when I meet with them. Commissions turn out to be the most fun in terms of ideas and taking on new challenges.


Cathy de Lorimier
via faso.com
Luann,
Your article is so full of wonderful ideas, and I appreciate it. I guess the main point it comes down to is knowing where you stand on the issue of a special price and sticking to it (congenially) when asked the question. Having alternative ideas like a commission to fit their budget (thanks Sue Betanzos!) is the best way to be prepared. I have often sold works to friends I have known for a long time, and this has been a tricky thing to maneuver for me. It is nice to have a few solutions tucked away for reference. THANKS!
Cathy

jack white
via faso.com
Jan,
For forty plus years and twenty for Mikki, we let the client make a down payment and take or we ship the art to them. NOT ONE person has cheated us out of a single dime. We have had some late on payments. We have always trusted people and have not been disappointed. We instruct our galleries to get 25 percent down and let them begin enjoying the art. Most of these end up with more art. They love being trusted.

Email me your email address and I'll send you a free copy of my book, The Magic of Selling Art. It's written to help galleries as well as artists. Rather than begin with a discount, start with good selling knowledge. Make the client work for the savings. If you give discounts, keep that until you are ready to close. Toss the savings in to close the sale.
We know how weak the art market is.
Jack
jack@jackwhiteartist.com

Jan
via faso.com
Jack,
I hear you and agree. And I have in fact read your book - it has a lot of very good info - but the past few years? All bets are off. It's not the same as it was - AT ALL.

jack white
via faso.com
Jan,
We are in four galleries. You are preaching to the choir. We know things are tight. We have had to paint better and sell harder. There is no signs of recovery in the near future. This why it's so vital to study selling. Those who can sell are till doing well. We have one gallery that knows how to sell and they are closing sales. The other three are order takers.

I still say don't start off with a discount. Build the interest and get them comfortable with you first. Talk about them. When you begin talking prices, that's when you ask, "What is your budget?"
Wait for them to answer. First person to speak loses.
If the art is $2k and he says $1200 you can counter, I can go down to $1,700.

Let him wrangle some more and go down to $1,600 if you are willing to go that low. You have to leave room to bargain when making the close.

In the end you want them to think they won. (smile) jack

Donald Fox
via faso.com
These are all important decisions that each artist should make. Consistency in business practices is very important as is negotiation. I like Jack's terminology - savings instead of discounts.

Anne Bevan
via faso.com
Thank you Luann,
It is so generous of you to share your experience and insights on this tricky topic. I, for one, have always felt confounded when struck with these requests. This column is a keeper!




Alan
via faso.com
I couldn't agree with you more Luann. I've done many shows in the past and there are always the people who want a deal, usually I will say what you do that I appreciate their interest in my work but it is fairly priced and I do have lower priced items that they may find just as enjoyable.

Let's face it Luann artists in general have an uphill battle when it comes to sales. Part of the reason for this is that what we do is considered by most a luxury not a necessity. What people tend to forget is that without creativity and imagination we would still be in caves.

Elayne Kuehler
via faso.com
This is a great article. I appreciate your business savy. Everything you said makes great sense. Thanks so much for sharing!

jo allebach
via faso.com
What fabulous ideas. I am glad to hear it is better to get them to make the first "Bid". I use the lay away plan, too. And like Jack said I have not lost yet. (Knock on wood). Thanks for the reminders

Donna Robillard
via faso.com
I, too, like the work "savings" much better than "discount", and I, also, like the layaway plan. Some who would not be able to put down the full amount, could purchase on the layaway plan.

Delilah
via faso.com
I did a show a while back where two ladies were rushing around at the end of the showing asking each artist for deep discounts because the show was over and wasn't it better to sell then pack it? I just said, no thank you I have many more shows to do this year and they still didn't give up. I just took it down wrapped it and put it n my packing box so they would move on.I gave them a card in case they decided they really wanted it later.










 

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