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Generation X and Art

by Mark Edward Adams on 1/12/2012 8:42:31 AM

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Who buys the art?  More specifically, who buys art in the major art towns in the Southwest such as Santa Fe and Scottsdale?  If you talk to the top galleries they will tell you it is the baby boomers.  They account for the majority of the sales in the art cities in the Southwest.  The big seasons for the galleries coincide with where the baby boomer generation goes.  This is not that surprising and is to be expected that this generation had time to acquire the means to buy art.  What is shocking is the absence of Generation X.

 

Generation X is my generation and we are the children of the baby boomers.  We are in our 30's and 40's and we are not collecting art.  Personally, I blame the top galleries and big art shows.  The Western artists of the baby boomer age are fantastic at what they do.  From the 1970's they have done very well and continued to sell very well for the next thirty years.  These artists were in all the big juried shows and they just picked winners from the same crowd year after year.  I completely understand.  The artists were doing well, the galleries were making money, and the shows  could promote their organizations.  Why change something that works?

 

Fast forward 30 years later and look around.  Nothing has changed.  These artists are making the same sort of things they did 20 years ago, the galleries are selling to the same crowd, and the shows are sticking with the same names.  When someone from Generation X visits these art cities we are lost.  The art institutions were so focused on the present that they forgot about the future.  What happens in 20 years from now?

 

I am very passionate about these art towns and they help keep art alive in this technical age.  In order to survive, they must start communicating with my generation.  They must bring in new blood, embrace social media, market in new ways and realize that what worked 2o years ago will not work now.  There are ways to reach Generation X and it is not too late.  But it requires a change of plan.

 

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Barbara Reich
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Very difficult topic. Sometimes we see the same artists appearing in shows and galleries simply because they are really good! Sometimes, however, when you see the list of awards in a national show and one artist has taken 3 of the awards (yes, it happened) you wonder what's going on. Is that artist really better than most every other painter in America?! I would love to hear ideas of how to effectively "change the plan" because in time, with hard work, I would like to be both ready as well as included in this group. Change is good! Persistance might be even better.
Barb Reich

Kim
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May I suggest that you explore art in the smaller towns that are off these well-worn centers? There is a lot of interesting, new art being produced in New Mexico, for instance, but perhaps you, too, have to start doing something new and different. Take a few trips around to these smaller communities. Visit some artist studios out in the hinterlands. There is vibrant art life outside the hegemonic centers of the Southwest, but you have to be open to finding them.

Amy Guidry
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I agree with Kim- exploring other areas that are off the beaten path will sometimes have the "best" art. Even some eclectic galleries that I've discovered are usually not mentioned in the press and are well-hidden on google but are showing amazing work. This is what I've discovered just through travel (not in New Mexico, so obviously it's happening all over).

Lori Woodward
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Mark, wonderful post!

I'm a baby boomer. Although my husband and I only could afford prints when we were in our 30s, we started collecting originals at around age 45 when we had some savings and were out of debt.

When we were in our 30's it was our parents generation who bought the most art... they had savings and were out of debt at that time too, but we had bought a home, and had too many expenses to think of buying original art.

That said, it has been my observation that each generation begins thinking more about collecting orginals when their kids are grown and they aren't paying or saving for college tuition, paying mortgage payments and worried about losing their jobs.

Sure, some really affluent generation Xers have art collections, but most of them are consumed with a growing family. I used to do a lot of outdoor art shows, and never did anyone pushing a stroller buy my work. It was mostly purchased by other artists or folks in their 50's.

When the time is right and younger people have the means and fiscal confidence to buy artwork, it will catch on... probably in their 40's. What I have noticed is that younger people aren't attracted to traditional art (or decorating for that fact). For the most part (if they aren't artists themselves) they like art that has a more contemporary feel.

There is a growing market for non-traditional, contemporary work, and I believe these sales are taking place because gen Xers (who are buying) prefer boldness, bright color, and sleek framing.

Just my 2 cents ;-)


Sheila Tansey
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What is the change in plan? I personally feel that great art is timeless, no generation boundaries. Buying art may have generational boundaries based on opportunity and disposable imcome. We live in a time where we are bombarded with imagery. We no longer need art to tell a story, we love it because it holds an emotion for us...or despise it because it is ludicrous. We need a plan to get Generation X to see the value in BUYING art...but I believe museums and institutions of learning have jaded many art lovers for the amounts of money spent on what they deem art. And its these public institutions that most people go to to see art...most don't think about going to commericial galleries.

Diane Olsen
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It is my belief that there are two main reasons why Generation X people are not collectors of original art in the same way baby boomers collect art. Gen Y people basically "invest" their money in electronics. They buy the latest phone, computer, electronic device, etc. Their extra money is spent for what they use everyday. Their "investments" are in an electronic art form that gives them connection 24/7 to their friends, work, and information.

And they do not understand the inherent aesthetic value of original art.

Unfortunately, it is the same electronic capabilities that keep them satisfied with art in their lives. It is easy to download images, have them available for immediate viewing on their phones, and print them if they want. They buy prints and reproductions of art, not original works. What is "new" changes so quickly and so regularly, that keeping art for viewing in their lives is done in the same way they have been brought up on fast paced movies, fast food, short video clips, etc. Just log on and you can find what you are looking for. Even baby boomers know that.

Longevity is not a word you will hear them use in relationship to their belongings, work, relationships, or investments. I don't think the word is even in their "most used" vocabulary list, if it all.

The galleries do indeed have a challenge. The greatest challenge is not in keeping up with and utilizing the electronic capabilities of today, but in convincing Gen X that owning original art has a unique life enhancing purpose and value in their homes. They have to get Gen X through their doors, if they still have them, and let them experience personally the beauty and enjoyment first hand of original art in the way they can't do online. They will need a person there when they do come, who is an expert guide to light a passion in them for the direct human, artistic element represented in those works that can't be found in giclee prints and reproductions.

That is a very difficult thing to do in a virtual world and one that will require a new kind of master in today's art world to accomplish.



Lori Woodward
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Sheila, your comment about the fact that most don't go to commercial galleries... so true!

Most successful commercial galleries in the US are located in arts districts which are really vacation spots and tourist places... Santa Fe, Scottsdale, ski-resorts, Carmel, etc... in the east, it's resort ares along the Maine Coast, near ski slopes in VT, and near Rockport and Cape Cod MA... then in the Southern coastal resorts as well

NY city is a totally different venue.

Anyway, this brought me to another thought that I'd like to share. Many people buy art while on vacation. It's been true of my hubby and me.. we are much more likely to visit galleries, museums, and buy work while on vacation. There's something about being away from home in a beautiful place, relaxing that makes us want to spend money on art... "we've already spent so much on this trip, why not buy something we really love"...

One of the reasons why art sales are low and galleries in tourism areas are suffering is because the whole vacation industry is suffering. I'm not a gen Xer, so I don't know how often they go on vacations to resort areas that have art districts. That's how a lot of folks get introduced to the idea of buying original art, because the shops, restaurants and galleries are all on the same block, and since there's no place to get a parking spot, people walk around and take a look at the gallery.

When tourism and 2nd housing sales pick up, we'll see a huge improvement in art sales. Right now, the collectors who are buying from galleries don't even attend the show... they are avid art collectors (who got started 20 or more years ago) probably while on vacation, and they buy what they want by seeing it online or in a magazine ad. Really, I can substantiate this fact!

I believe the time is still to come when gen Xers will begin to buy original art in droves. Perhaps while on vacation, perhaps they'll buy directly online from artists... or buy from local artists who put on their own shows. It's all so exciting and things are changing so fast. But I do know this! If there comes a time when the vast majority of "30 somethings" have disposable income, they will find ways to spend it, and it's our job as artists to make sure they start spending it on original art.

OK, I'm procrastinating now.. and I need to be writing up my powerpoint presentation for my marketing seminar at Scottsdale Artist School next week (shameful plug)... so long for now.

Thanks for getting me so excited about this topic. I do believe there are great times ahead for art sales, but they'll be done in a far different way than in the past.
Thanks for listening!


jack white
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Mark,
Enjoyed your post. We have been selling Mikki's work in Santa Fe for about 22 years. The trend is no longer western. At least 60 percent of the art is modern or abstract. No more than 20 percent could be considered pure western.

We are also finding a 1/3 of our sales are coming from the younger generation. It's encouraging to see a new collector base.

Jack

Nancy Riedell
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Mark,

This is a very telling article indeed. Thank you for your input. As a Baby Boomer myself and the mother of 3 Gen X-ers, I know what you mean. Recently, I went into an antique shop to see if they would be interested in purchasing my mother's Haviland china and Waterford crystal.
And here is what the proprietor (also a Boomer) said:

"Young people these days (meaning you X-ers) aren't interested in purchasing anything from their parents' or grandparents' generation. Only, if it is something from their own generation, like the old Apple computers, are they interested. Antiques like this won't make a comeback unless the 20-somethings find value in it. Only then will it be of value."

As a result, he was not interested in buying my antiques.

I can't help but wonder if the same analogy is true for art.

Nancy

Sharon Weaver
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The Baby Boomers have fueled the economy since they were born and a decline audience is everywhere in the arts, not just galleries. Who goes to concerts, theater, opera, museums etc? Not Generation X. All the arts are experiencing declining revenue and trying to make adjustments hoping to attract a new audience. If anyone figures out how to do that you should let them all know. In LA they did a radical staging of Wagner's Rings to attract a younger audience. It was a critical and financial failure. New and different is not always better but there is a consequence of this decline. Less art. More and more orchestras, theaters and galleries are giving their last shows. I agree with Diane that the Generation X is more interested in texting than seeing art. Maybe that will change with time but the numbers just are not there to sustain a substantial art recovery. Less people, less customers. It's pretty simple.

Lori Woodward
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Hey, we baby-boomers aren't dead yet ;)

Nancy, where do you live? Those things still do OK here in New England antique shops... young people are never to be found in antique shops around here, but those shops are doing well in wealthy communities here.

A few friends of mine have started selling their art with a major antique dealer in New Hampshire - and doing quite well with sales for high prices. The buyers are used to paying beacoup dollars for antique works of art and high end antiques, so when they see a price of a few thousand on contemporary art, they think it's no big deal to buy.

One thing about the art market... as soon as you think you've got it figured out, a new sales venue will surprise you. Interesting what Jack White reported about younger buyers. It doesn't surprise me that Mikki's work appeals across the generations.
Yes, I'm still procrastinating, but something else exciting happened for me this morning!!! Can't tell about it yet.. has to do with American Artist.

Sue Betanzos
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Lori I completely agree with you about sales and the tourism etc. Also, it is true that the preference is more towards abstract art and art with bold or bright colors.
I noticed that the art that is selling has a looser, brighter feel. And yes - things will pick up. Good times are on the horizon. We (artists) just have to stay flexible, market smarter and embrace technology with all the cool, wonderful Fun assets.

Nancy Riedell
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Lori,

I live in California. LOL. Maybe I need to move to the East Coast! The antique dealer told me he has an entire warehouse of antiques that he can't move at all. Maybe it's just the way things are out here on the Left Coast! :)

Carol McIntyre
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Mark; I would LOVE to hear your suggestions on how to market to you generation differently? What would work? HOW do the galleries have to be different (sadly, many of them to have lousy websites)?

Have you surveyed your friends and asked them what it would take for them to buy original art?

Lori Woodward
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Spot on Sue! We artists have amazing tools to promote our work at very little cost! It takes a bit more of our time, but far less $ investment.

I've sold almost all of my work in the past 5 years completely on my own by getting to know people... many who never bought an original piece of art in their life. Some of them have purchased again from my website - without having seen he original.

What artists might not yet realize is that we no longer have to market to gatekeepers. There are many more ways and places to sell artwork and even cultivate newbie collectors. In some cases, I've had to do lay-a-way, but it all worked out and these folks have been attending gallery openings and buying art magazines ever since.

We should not feel sad or broken, but encouraged by the fact that we artists have more control over what happens to our work, who sees it and cultivating long long collectors.

I just don't think the gallery system is necessarily the first way to go anymore. If an artist is not great at writing and sales, they should hire someone who is and give them far less than a 50 percent commission.. ship the painting right from the studio.

When I did portrait commissions, I sold to clients (much younger than I) who were multi-millionaires. These folks knew nothing about original art. They just wanted a painted portrait of their kids to hang alongside of their photographs and posters. Even though they lived in mansions, they had no knowledge of artwork.

I made it my business to educate them about how art could enhance their lives, and more than not, they bought other works from me. All they needed was a bit of education... they're not going to visit art galleries and museums.. they had young children.

We artists who are social need to get out there and open up the world of art collecting to folks who have the means but never considered it.


Kyle Wood
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Mark, I enjoyed your post about generation x and art. I think that one of the underlying problem with the younger generations of not taking an interest in art or buying art, could be the lack of quality fine art programs in our public school systems. Many of the public schools systems have been forced to cut fine art programs, due to lack of funding from the state and federals levels of government. Children are also being taught to pass a standardized test, which takes away individuality and creativity away from the teachers and students. It is really a sad picture because children really need to be well rounded and offered classes in the arts, whether it be music, theater, or visual arts. The bottom line is of children do not get the exposure or encouragment, then how we can expect them as adults to understand and appreciate the fine arts.

Donald Fox
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As a Boomer with a long history in education, I'd venture that what we're seeing is an educational issue. We all tend to respond from what we know, and those of us not brought up with computers, internet, and constant connectivity have a different perspective on these tools. I enjoy going to museums, galleries, and libraries even though I make extensive use of internet information at home and work. Give me the real thing, however, and not a copy or facsimile. The points made about disposable income and choices are reasonable. What seems to be needed is solid market research on what Gen-Xers prefer and good educational programs that clarify the value of original art so that preferences might be influenced.

Michelle Basic Hendry
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Very thought provoking article. I can't say I haven't asked myself the same questions with regard to boomer art and the Gallery system.

I think we need to look at the issue completely differently. We have identified the problem before us (GenX and GenY), what we need to realize is that WE are the solution!

Why are we trying to fit in to a system that was not developed for us? Or worse, wait to be accepted into it? These fashionable 'art towns' were slums or 'revitalizing' communities in the 70's, weren't they? Can't we make our own? Lots of great places around the U.S. right now that need revitalizing and culture!

We must do something worthy to justify anybody taking notice and it is not in just what we are making, but how we offer it. Art is about community - so let's make new ones and see where the dust settles.

I am so fired up I wrote a blog post inspired by this discussion. Save you reading my whole long idea here! (Go Gen X/Y!!)

jack white
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Kyle,

Our experience has been the young people who grew up with parents that were art buyers continue the trend. We sold several pieces last year to people under 30. I don't think taking an art class means they will become collectors later in life. Most high school art classes are more about crafts than fine art.

Kids who grow up in homes with no original art not apt to become collectors until later in life. They want the fastest phone or the slickest I-pad.

We had a young couple talking about a commission. They finally decided to go on a cruise rather than buy the art. The cruise was over in 7 days, the art could have been passed down to their grand kids.

I agree the arts should be taught, but states simply don't have the money. Texas has a balanced budge mandate. School funding had to be cut several million to reach the required goal.

Jack

Michelle Basic Hendry
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Well Jack - I think I see that young couple's mistake - and it wasn't the cruise. It was considering buying from you. ;-)

I am sure there are many artists half your age (and Mikki's) that are equally skilled and are half (or less than half) the price. Young people need to support their own generation as the Boomers did. (And I understand they did a lot of traveling the Boomers, no?) We Gen X and Y need to grow the next generation of establishment.

To do that, we need to foster our artists and our artists need to have the courage to make a new place for our generation to find us. That means we must stop buying in to others' versions of the 'road to success'. Don't get me wrong, some advice is timeless, but the path is always changing. Both buyers and artists need the courage to be pioneers as their parents were.

I had the pleasure of meeting one of Canada's most established artists at a small gallery. He wrote his own reviews and created his own controversy amongst his peers early in his career. He is the 'establishment' now.

"Establishment" is created the same way as a 'start-up'. A lot of work and some good timing. We are a generation of 'start-ups' and we need to bring that game to art. Some of those famous bloggers must have art collections?

Perhaps if this young couple had considered buying young, they would have both the memories from the travel for themselves AND the painting to hand down to future generations.

(Mus' be that red Oklahoma soil getting this mild mannered Canadian all fired up!)

jack white
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Michelle Basic Hendry,

It's true most all artist are a lot younger than me. In fact they all are. I'm as old as the red Oklahoma soil you mentioned.

By the way I just finished a historical novel on Oklahoma. The book is with the publisher.

I'm currently helping Charity, a young artist from Western Canada. She is a excellent painter and an amazing young lady. I bet she would tell you I don't hold her age against her.

The truth is all of us grow old or we die. I don't mind saying I'll be 80 my next birthday.

For your information I am currently coaching several young artist. She is 23. I also coach a 65 year old Michigan artist. I do this for free, asking nothing in return. I've helped a lot of artist in their late 20ies and early 30ies. Two come to mind that I coached to success, West Coast Jennifer and East Coast Jennifer. One named her son after me. One artist I helped to find success was 33 when we started. He named one of his sons after me. Can anyone give a person a greater honor than naming their children after you?

Art marketing has not changed, there are just more opportunities than before. There are also a lot more artists. We still have to make art people will spend money to own. Just because an artist is all over the social media doesn't mean they are earning any money.

I'm chatting this week with an amazing Utah artist who is about 35. He is close to being a master. I think he would tell you I gave him sound career advice.

I might not can see well enough to paint these days, but I stay current with marketing art. Even in this difficult times I have managed Mikki's career where she is still a top selling artist.

Walk in my boots before you begin to being critical what I write.

An Old Broken Cowboy from Texas

Michelle Basic Hendry
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Jack;
I was being tongue in cheek. I didn't mean to cause offense.

My point was that young collectors need to support young artists. You may support young artists yourself and that's great - but it had NOTHING to so with what I said. I was in NO WAY being critical of age. Most of the people I work with in my book are over 90. Successful artists in your age bracket are far out of the budgets of most burgeoning collectors - that's was my intended joke. Most of us cannot own a painting from your level without a second mortgage.

I wasn't being critical of what you write but I was disagreeing with your criticism of the young couple's choice! Your writing style has always indicated to me a great deal of confidence. I may not always agree, but I respect it. I wouldn't waste my time challenging your opinion unless there was something to learn from it!

Be well, sir!

Michelle Basic Hendry
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Rereading my comment I can see how it might come across as biting, that was not my intention at all. The value in my point is lost and I wish I could rewrite the beginning of that comment! My apologies!

Marian Fortunati
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Hmmmmm... I'm curious... what is it that you think isn't happening??
Is it that Generation X isn't buying... or isn't interested or informed?
Is it that you think the galleries aren't using technology and social media to promote artists?
Is it the genre of painting that you feel is overlooked?

What would you have these galleries / art towns do differently?

Kim
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"...When someone from Generation X visits these art cities we are lost..."

I'm not sure what that means-? Do you mean that artists of your generation are absent from the galleries of these areas? Or do you mean that you literally don't know how to begin to navigate an in-person visit to the art sectors of these cities? The Railyard district of Santa Fe shows non-traditional art, but it's located a little bit away from the Plaza and Canyon Road gallery district. As Jack notes, there is a lot of non-traditional art in Santa Fe and to some extent Taos. I'm not sure how social media would affect a person's visit to these art centers, as you still have to pound the pavement and see art in person. Social media may alert you to different things, but it's still something you have to experience the old fashioned way, by just going and looking.

Lori Woodward
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BTW: Jack also coached me several years ago. I learned a lot about selling art from him, and it works! I wasn't bad at it to begin with, but now I'm even better.

I have even managed a gallery or two where I used Jack's advice to bring gallery visitors to the point of buying. It was all so fun!

With art, there are so many venues, different kinds of art, artist personalities, and such that it's impossible for one venue to fit all... not to mention the variety in types of collectors!

One thing that holds true for us all - is self-promotion. This is something that works for all of us artists.

Hey Jack, sorry to hear that you're not painting as much because you are such a great artist! I'm grateful to you for sharing to so many for free.


Lori Woodward
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Michelle, I didn't take your comment as a cut against Jack anyway. He probably thinks so too.

Anyway, anyone have advice about how we artists can improve communication about the joys of collecting art to a younger crowd?

I have many 20-something artist friends who are wildly successful and they collect and appreciate art, and although they have all the gadgets, their close friends are interested in art as well.

It's late and my mind is shot... love the discussion! I feel like I've been to a party with ya'll


Michelle Basic Hendry
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You're right Lori (and thank you) - There is no one way or one venue. I think in my own misguided way I was trying to suggest that. (There are some days when I should just ban myself from the keyboard!)

Clearly there are not enough Jack's out there. Interestingly, one conversation I had been having with young people of late is about mentorship (in any field). Many feel they are in competition with those who should be their mentors instead of being helped or encouraged by the senior generation. I find it a disturbing trend and perhaps a reason this article raises so many questions?




Mark Edward Adams
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I am fascinated by all of the comments. There seemed to be two topics. One is whether younger people have the means to buy fine art and if so, how do we bring in this generation.

I really think that there is an affluent demographic of Generation X with disposable income. For a better description check out the press kit http://www.fineartconnoisseur.com/article.asp?ID=25841. It is a new art magazine trying to capture this market and the press kit has a good section about this demographic. I think the challenge is how do you turn someone who is not interested in art into a collector. From my own experience about half of my collectors are Gen X and the work is priced around 2-3K. Most of these collectors have never purchased fine art.

So the question remains on what do you do? How do you open the lines of communication? I am going to write my next blog post on the topic. I have a very detailed marketing plan. The basic idea is you have to bring the younger people in via a series of steps from stranger to admirer to friend to collector. The overall marketing theories are the same, just the tools have changed.

Social media is critical but incomplete on its own. I still believe in traditional marketing tools and in galleries. It is our job to create new tribes and movements and show the relevance. This is done by providing value based content and becoming a movement. I know this sounds very esoteric, but I will try my best to give a better explanation in my blog with a lot of resources and links.

Mark Edward Adams

Mark Edward Adams
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I would also suggest this youtube video by Seth Godin, who is one of my people I really look up to in marketing:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q6vpBDFoMqc

Lori Woodward
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Nah Michelle, we couldn't have this conversation without you!

I enjoy your contributions.
Time for my bed... goodnight.


Brian Sherwin
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Kim nailed it -- explore art off the beaten path. Our museums have failed to discover and preserve art outside of major city limits. There is a world of art out there that has went under the mainstream radar simply because most professionals within the mainstream gallery and museum world fail to really 'look' for art today. But the art is out there -- and now it can be seen -- and secure a strong fan base -- due to the Internet. The art history books of tomorrow are going to be a joke if art critics and art historians cling to the old system and continue to disregard art that is not exhibited within their comfort zone.

Kim
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Mark, as a sculptor, here's something fresh and exciting for you to look into the next time you plan an art trip to the Southwest. This website is from 2007, but the event is held every other year. There is nothing more exciting than watching sculptors pour molten iron on the spot:

http://nmhu.edu/irontribe/

Brian Sherwin
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A New York based art market analyst once told me that there are approx. 300 art collectors in the world at any given time that are willing to spend $20,000 for a work of art. I'm not sure how he came to that number -- had something to do with international art fair data. (The focus was on contemporary art).

Now if that number is correct for contemporary art (I'm not saying I agree with it) it would mean that there are only 300 or so collectors willing to spend big money. Think of that -- then think of how many artists are active today worldwide.

I asked him about the lower ends of the market and he looked at me with a blank expression. He didn't know what to say. Mind you this guy is highly respected in his field. It would be nice to know some stats (and I realize one must take stats with a grain of salt) on lower end art collector traits.

I know of several 'small town' art communities that have done extremely well with prices ranging from $50 to $800. Those communities have an average of 10,000 to 20,000 in population. That is not a huge population by any means -- but the artists who exhibit in these communities have sold to local art collectors on a steady basis.

It would be interesting to know if those collectors purchased art before -- or if the establishment of an art community within their city spurred their interest in collecting art.

Just openly thinking on the topic...

Brian Sherwin
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Jack -- You said, "Just because an artist is all over the social media doesn't mean they are earning any money. "

That is true -- but I'd suggest that having a solid presence online will continue to be a major factor in how well the average artist will do. For better or worse people think in terms of numbers today -- thus an artist with a large following may get a second look over an artist who does not. (Even the big NYC galleries are starting to take online following into account when deciding who to represent).

It is assumed -- again, for better or worse -- that the artist with the large online following must be doing something 'right'... and that their work is 'admired'. Those numbers, as you know, can be deceptive... and I'm sure we can both point to artists who do extremely well without having ever created an online profile.

Nevertheless, the younger generations do tend to assume that 'popularity' online means 'successful'. The next generation of art collectors will likely consider online 'popularity' in their considerations. Again, for better or worse.

Kim
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Brian, interesting. Who knows what online 'popularity' really represents? Is it really just a measure of how active and/or adept an artist is socially? Or a reliable reflection of what people really think of the work? Or a little of both?

Mark Edward Adams
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I know there is fantastic art out there. I am sure we have all met artists who were brilliant at what they did, but nobody knew about them. And they are still all around us.

The question is how do we connect this great art to the next generation in the midst of the technical age? How do we create the market share and momentum for new art?

In order to do this we must create value. We must show the world why this is important and this is more than a decorative object. Use the new marketing to educate and build a tribe.

Brian Sherwin
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Kim -- This much I know based on research I've done (little off topic though). Some of the art world directions that institutional critique has told us is 'important' today has a minimal following -- at least on Facebook.

For example, if conceptual art and new media art are so important today (and no, I don't have a problem with either) why do so few people follow said direction as an interest on Facebook? Yet when you look up variants of traditional directions in art the 'interest' numbers are HUGE -- yet the big influential 'art world' dismisses said directions compared to the trends they support.

Take Visionary Art for example. The mainstream art world has little interest in it aside from a handful of artists who shattered the glass wall. Variants of Visionary Art has a HUGE following on Facebook. People clearly like it enough to mark it as an interest -- but you don't see that same response with conceptual art, video art, installation art -- which are always championed within the mainstream art world.

The mainstream art world tells us one thing -- the public tells us another. Which do you believe? :)

Rick Rotante
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Mark - So lets see if I get this straight - all art before Gen X is irrelevant(??)because it doesn't speak to today's youth??? You have it all backwards my friend. First let me say all great work has appealed to generations of young people way before Gen X. But they took an interest in looking at it. Boomers knew more about art because then it was still taught in schools. It was encouraged by parents. It was appreciated and understood. In short, it was there if you wanted it.
Today, X'ers can't get their head out of their Ipods long enough to see anything, much less art. Art isn't there to impose itself on people, people have to take an interest in art for it to succeed or be interesting.
Great art hasn't become passe just because you don't appreciate it and is still relevant even if X'ers don't see it.
I will grant you that subject matter hasn't progressed and isn't talking to the "now" generation. But how would you know present "good" art if you haven't taken the time to understand where it came from?
If no one today is talking to the GenX folks it's because YOU are not saying anything artful.
There are schools, teacher everywhere and the last time I checked, art stores don't discriminate against anyone buying supplies.
Stop waiting for someone (establishment) to talk to you and talk to us. Create something worth seeing the world will listen. Don't blame the past generations' art for your lack of contribution.

Rick Rotante
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Kim
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Brian, could it be that some art forms are easier to distribute images of on the internet? A conceptual environmental work may not lend itself to electronic media. I am thinking of an artist who freezes the seeds of wild plants in blocks of ice and sends the block down a stream to melt and drop out of the ice (this is just an example, and not mentioned to debate whether it's really 'art.'). What phase of that process is to be shown? How do you convey that electronically? I think it's easier to distribute images of 2-D and 3-D pieces of more traditionally executed art, so that may explain their greater presence online. Who knows.

Carol Schmauder
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Thanks for the article, Mark. I am a "baby boomer" and notice that my children and their peers are not purchasing much original art. Like others have stated, they seem to be more into electronic devices and keeping up with the industry.

Kenneth
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Diane Olsen-- I think you present a very valid point. I can't say how many young people I have seen who are drawing figures that copy the electronic game styles.
I think we are talking about aquired tastes. Just look at the amount of time young people spend playing electronic games. Even parents play games to be with their kids. How much does the electronic world influence the comming generation is hard to pin down but it must be great.
In that light new tastes can be aquired and influenced.
We who are artist have an oppertunity and responsibility to influence the younger generation by exposing them to good art that will inspire them. I take the oppertunity to expose my grandchildren to the fun of art, giving them pencil and paper, drawing for them and encoouraging them to enjoy art.
Perhaps we can have a greater influence to promote good art than we think. Those of you artists who also have classes are to be commended for taking the time to further the arts.










 

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