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Art Pricing Strategies 3

by Lori Woodward on 3/3/2010 1:01:16 PM

Today's Post is by Lori Woodward, Regular contributing writer for FineArtViews. She is also a contributing editor for American Artist's Watercolor and Workshop magazines and she writes "The Artist's Life" blog on American Artists' Forum. Lori is a member of The Putney Painters, an invitational group that paints under the direction of Richard Schmid and Nancy Guzik.  Find out how you can be a guest author. 


Learning From My Professional Friends


Years ago, when I first started selling my work at outdoor shows, I looked to my friend, Monique Sakellarios for advice on pricing my artwork. After all, Monique had been selling her work successfully for several years at both outdoor shows and galleries; she was, and is, making the kind of income many of us only dream of. At the time, Monique priced her work by size. When she had a good selling year, she boosted her retail prices by 10%. If the economy was slow, she opted to maintain the same price scale she had used the previous year.

I asked Monique if she priced some of her best works slightly higher, and she said absolutely not -- because she had observed that her clients would sometimes fall in love with a work she didn't like very much, and if she priced some lower than others of the same size, collectors wondered if something was wrong with the less expensive painting -- it would sit there unsold.

Knowing that Monique is an astute business woman, I followed her pricing procedure when it came to my own work. Of course, I did not price my works as high as hers - she was a well known artist in the New England region; I was not known at all.

More Than One Way That Works

If there were only one standard way to price artwork - there would be very little confusion around the issue of setting prices. Galleries generally have the artist set the prices, but whether you're working with a gallery or selling on your own, pricing by the square inch is sometimes the easiest way to get started while showing consistency. When you're first starting out, it's a good idea to make your work as affordable as you can while being able to cover your costs and make a small profit. Don't charge so little that you don't break even.

OK, without further ado, here is how many artists price their work using a square inch method. Generally, they increase the dollar amount for smaller paintings and decrease it for very large paintings. So, let's begin with pricing a medium sized painting - we'll use a 16x20 work as an example.

First, multiply the painting's width by its length to arrive at the total size, in square inches. Then multiply that number by a set dollar amount. I currently use $6 per square inch for oil on linen paintings. A 16”-x-20” painting: = 320 square inches.

I price my oil paintings at $6 per square inch. 320 x 6 = $1,920.00 and I round this down to $1,900. My frame, canvas and materials cost me $150.00 (I buy framing wholesale). I double this cost so that I'll get it all back when the painting sells at the gallery. Otherwise, I'm subsidizing the collector by giving him or her the frame for free. $150 x 2 = $300

Then I put it all together: $1,900 + $300 = $2,200 (the retail price). When the painting sells from a gallery, my cut after the 50 percent commission is paid comes to $950 for the painting and $150 for the framing and materials, for a total of $1,100.

For much larger pieces, I'll bring the price per square inch down a notch ... maybe a dollar or two lower so that I don't price my work beyond what my reputation can sustain. Alternately, for smaller works, I'll increase the dollar per square inch because small works take almost as much effort as larger works, and I need to be compensated for my expertise, even when the work is miniature.

This is not the only way to price artwork, but it's one that keeps my prices consistent and keeps me sane. By the way, my prices were much lower 10 years ago when my artwork was relatively unknown to collectors. When I began working with galleries, I had to increase by 20% or so in order for my prices to be in line with the other works in the gallery. When I have a great selling year, I raise my prices by 10 percent. When the economy is poor or my sales are slow, I don't raise prices at all.




Related Posts:

Do the Math (Part 1)

Price is a Shortcut

Pricing Your Art

Realistic Pricing Practices

Ask Stape: Increasing Your Prices?



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Jill Banks
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Thanks, Lori for writing about this complicated subject. I never thought about how setting a different price for the same sized artwork affects the potential purchaser of a less expensive piece. Along those lines...when you raise your prices from year to year, do you increase the prices of last year's paintings?
Thanks!
Jill

Sharon Weaver
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Since most of us artists types are not great with money or the finance area of the business, this method of pricing sounds like a good way to keep sane. What percentage do you increase for a smaller piece; say an 8x10?

Helen Horn Musser
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Hi Lorie, This appears to be a consistent way of pricing your artwork. I think that is all a collector wants, consistency, a fair price, and wonderful paintings

Carol Schmauder
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Thanks for continuing to expand on pricing strategies. The points you have made make sense. I have always priced my paintings of the same size the same price. Often paintings I don't like as well will sell when others I really like a lot don't sell as quickly. Go figure!

Sharon Markwardt
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One of the galleries I work with uses the price per square inch approach, while the other slides the scale based on the complexity or level of detail in the work. While I can see the merit of each, It does make it difficult to have consistency. I guess I just have to pick a method and have them both stick with it!
Sue Martin
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Lori, thank you for this very clear model for pricing. I've used something approximately like this, but I wasn't adding the framing/materials cost to the square inch figure. Your method makes much more sense.

David W. Mayer
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Lori,

This Part III offers the best art pricing advice of all.

I would add, however, being an ex-product marketing person, is that all artists should do some honest and objective competitive analysis.

Look at the galleries/shows that you are targeting and see what the other artists of the same level of quality and brand reputation are charging.

Don't price your work at what Clyde Aspevig and Scott Christensen are charging for landscapes, as even if your quality is the same (be honest here) you do not have the same current level of brand reputation.

(Think why it is that Hyundai and Kia Motors now have the same level of product quality as Lexus and Mercedes, yet cannot charge the same prices for the same type of product.)

If you are really objective and honest in your competitive analysis, you will arrive at the right prices and not ask too much nor too little.

Also, remember, that art galleries will want you to price your work just as high as you honestly and possibly can within the market, as they will make more money that way.

Conversely, artwork priced too high for the quality and brand reputation will languish of the walls and the gallery does not want that either. You won’t be there long!

Always ask them what they think of your prices for the level of art quality you provide and the current stare of your brand reputation.

David W. Mayer
West Creek Studio
www.dwmayer.com

Tuva Stephens
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Lor, thanks for sharing the information the pricing of oil paintings. Can you share about the pricing of watercolor paintings?

Joanne Bernardini
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If only there was a magic formula for pricing. How easy our lives would be! The things I price low to sell will sit and something I don't think will sell at a higher price is snapped up quickly!

Tom Weinkle
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Thanks Lori.

I have used the square inch approach and find it very simple and effective.

I did learn through one experience that I am better served explaining the pricing of my work to collectors with another logic.

Linda Wilder
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Thanks Lori, great advice. Time to look at my prices again. And David, I agree with you

Tuva Stephens
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I have always used the suggestion by Edgar Whitney to price your work based on what it would take for you to let go of it. I do consider the complexity of a work when pricing, and the stories about the work makes them sell so much better. This was proven this past weekend at my featured artist show at a gallery. People love the stories about the paintings!

Sue Martin
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Tom, I'm curious what logic you use with your customers. Can you share that?

Linda Wilder
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Tuva, are you saying that you may price your work of the same size differently dependant upon the complexity and stories? Congrats on you being feature artist!

Carol Bailey
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Great series of articles Lori! Many years ago I spent some time in the studio of Kent Wallis, and he told me that artists were always asking how he sold so well, and he told me he always tried to price his paintings well below his competition. I do believe that how your selling price relates to other artists of the same experience and skill as yourself is one of the most important considerations, but it is good to take all these other factors into consideration also. Thanks!

Tonya
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Thank you for todays advice.

Linda Wilder
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Yes Tom, Please explain


Charlotte Herczfeld
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Lori, thank you! This makes sense, is consistent with the same or possibly slightly different methods of many established artists. The fact that so many use a similar fomula indicates it is wise. I'm about to try it on the market for the first time.

Tom, share the secret, will you?



Tom Weinkle
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Well Sue, When I was asked and I started in about the square inch method, I was greeted with scrunched foreheads. These were friends, so it was okay, but I realized they wanted to hear something more romantic...along the lines of some of the other comments today.

I have generally talked about the idea that this is “what it is worth”. I tell people my work is “collected” and “sought after”. and buyers have not hesitated over price.

I never say “it“ was a lot of work, because then it seems like a chore. I also say the pricing is quite consistent with other paintings I have sold. I am not trying to be cocky, or arrogant about my ability or with potential buyers, but I believe if they have any sense you doubt the price yourself, they will sense it and not go for it. It helps that my pricing is comparable to other artists where I sell it.

I don't tell people how long it takes me to do a painting, because they equate that with hourly labor. I don't believe that is how you price art work. Great ideas and work can be worth millions, and be created in seconds.

Many years ago, a successful graphic designer said that one should stand in the mirror every morning and practice saying “onnneee hundreddd and eightyyyyy thoussasannd dollars. When you can do that without flinching, you are ready to face the world. i still practice, but have dropped some zeroes.



K. Henderson
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I never thought about adding the price of materials to the square inch price but it makes since especially if you are framing the work and use different priced frames.

I paint two different subject matters (Still life and American Indian).I use the square inch method on my American Indian paintings. BUT if I do one that is more complicated (such as 2 figures instead of one) I will bump the price up usually an additional 50 percent.
Linda Wilder
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Tom, when I drop a few zero's and I say out loud...OOONE HUNNNDRRRED AND EIGHTYYYY...I'm usually on the dart board.Lol, all kidding aside, you do make sense.

Daggi Wallace
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What about paintings that win awards? Should they be priced slightly higher because of it, especially if they win multiple awards?

Tom Weinkle
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You are probably asking Lori, but to me, awards are more about recognition and reinforcement than pricing.

For me, the few I have won hasn't sold the particular piece, but it has made a buyer feel better about another piece they are interested in.

I'd be curious what others think about this issue.

Gina Buzby
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I too will give this serious consideration. Thank you Lori for an insightful article. There are many methods for determining prices - this may very well be one that stands the test of time.

Ann
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The price per inch approach is the one I like to use, but it is important to remember to increase the per inch price of small paintings, since they incur almost as much planning time as a larger painting.

I, too, have been surprised that my personal favorites are not the first ones to sell.

Thanks for an interesting discussion.
Ann
Daggi Wallace
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Thanks, Tom, for the input. Yes, I have only sold a couple of paintings at juried shows myself, but wonder if the value of the award winning piece should go up a bit after it comes back in comparison to same sized paintings which have not won awards.

Helen Horn Musser
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I'm with you Tom; my awards did not sell the paintings, but, was very good for my self esteem as an artist. That makes for better paintings

Esther J. Williams
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Lori, I feel comfortable pricing my work by the square inch, it makes life easier. Since reading your articles I began to double the frame price. I buy them wholesale anyway from KingofFrames.com.
I tend to agree with K. Henderson about more difficult figural works in pricing them a little higher. I remember reading and hearing that figural works tend to go for more than landscapes in galleries a few years ago. But everything has changed in the past few years, I wonder if this still goes? I paint both and do feel the figural works can take the wind out of me. They sell good and I think I am priced below most other established artists in my area.
Also, if an artist wins a lot of awards in a year and the paintings sell quickly, doesn`t that give the artist the right to increase prices more than 10 percent? I know it all depends how low the prices were before and that the prices don`t go over what the top award winners ask. I see a balance scale analogy here where one side is supply and the other is demand.

Diana Watson
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This is a great idea my problem is with my major gallery who hates price rises and if anything looks for turnover to the detriment of the pricing .
I have been a professional artist for over 20 years and I am not getting any younger,
generally I sell out at my exhibitions and suppose this is a big factor in the galleries reluctance to lift prices .
At the moment my average price per square inch is $3.00
Any suggestions how to handle the dilema ?

Esther J. Williams
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Diana, your art work is truly beautiful and I can see why it sells out in an exhibition. You need to negotiate a new contract with your major gallery to increase your prices. Maybe you can discuss with your other galleries who are more lenient and have the price increases agreed to by them, then use that as a negotiating tool. Here is the law of demand exceeding supply and the price needs to go up.

K. Henderson
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Diana,YOU are in charge of your business, not the gallery. If you are selling out at your shows it makes sense to me to raise your prices. I never understood the reluctance of the gallery when an artist raises price. After all THEY make more money too!
Esther, you have a right to rasie your prices anytime you want, whether you've won awards or not. And why can't you ask more than the top award winner? After all, the folks that dole out awards are just people with opinions. I've had work refused from one show then won Best of Show in another show. Awards are great, they help your resume but in the long run they don't really mean anything. Selling your work is the true test, not the number of awards you get
Karen Winters
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Lori, thank you for sharing your strategies for pricing - very helpful
K. Henderson
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PS Diana Watson, your work is WONDERFUL!! No wonder you sell out
Esther J. Williams
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K., thank-you for the moral support! I once asked more for a painting than the top award winner at a competition, that is because half a dozen people wanted to buy it from the easel (plein air) and I had to have them wait for the event night. I got so many funny looks from other artists, that puzzled look. It bugged me (too sensitive) and I lowered my prices ever since. Gradually I brought them back up.
A few months ago I entered a piece into a landscape show and it didn`t win even an HM, I entered it into another show and still no HM award, but a lot of people made a fuss over it and it sold. Judging is subjective I know, but in my area, it really helps to have awards or you do not even get considered to be in a gallery or formal exhibition. I am been building up the awards list to get into a Southern, Calif. gallery. Hello out there Laguna Beach, I am waiting for that call! Actually I am on a couple of waiting lists. It`s tough in southern California, there`s a sea of artists all competing for attention.
I must get back to painting before my afternoon light goes away.

Lori Woodward
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Hi, just logging on today. Sounds like an excellent discussion going on here.

I was initially going to add (in this blog) that Calvin Goodman advises that artists raise the prices on their best works, and I did try it for a while, but found that it was difficult to determine.

Industry-wide, watercolors and works on paper usually sell for less than works on canvas. Although there are a few watercolorists who sell in the tens of thousands range.

I've found that my watermedia paintings sell for more if I varnish them and frame them like an oil. Works under glass don't show as well because of reflection.

The things that affect price:
The quality and desirability of the work.
The reputation of the aritist - how well known
The medium, materials and frame.
Where the work is being sold - "location, location, location.

Artists need to do a little detective work to figure out where they stand in the market.


Linda Wilder
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Diane, when was the last time you raised your prices? Your Paintings are very beautiful and large! And since your work is in demand...I definately think you should raise your prices.

Fay Terry
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This method of pricing, by the square inch, is a very good and relatively simple formula. I have been using this but I like the idea of also figuring in the cost of the frame and canvas.
I think it is a good idea to increase prices yearly by a percentage but when I do an increase it is usually 5 percent rather than 10. I guess well-established artists could easily increase by 10 percent in a good economic year.

Thanks for very helpful information!
Sue Martin
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Tom, thanks for the insight on your conversations with customers. I can hear myself saying "This pricing is consistent with other works I've sold." or "This pricing is very competitive for this size painting in this market." And there may be a part of me that wants to say, "If you think this is expensive, you should started collecting my work 10 years ago!" I think you're right - talking about square inches will just make their eyes glaze over.

stede
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I like to use the square inch approach...it creates a sense of consistency that is calming to people considering my work. I too have learned that the very painting I think I won't bother to bring to a show is often the one that sells first...so I bring everything thatpasses the objective painted well test...forget about my opinions when it comes time to sell!
stede
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PS:

It is heartening to hear the words, Sold" and "selling well" in this economy!


Barbara J Carter
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When you're first starting out, I think figuring out what your price per square inch should be is the hardest thing. 6 dollars per square inch is NOT a beginner's price! I'd say more like a buck. Maybe 50 cents for really big work.

Then, assuming your stuff gets snapped up faster than you can paint, you can raise your prices - in smallish increments. Do it as often as needed in the first few years to balance out supply and demand. Be very careful not to overshoot: it's bad form to lower prices.

The people who bought your first paintings will feel smug for getting in before your prices took off. They'll be some of your most loyal fans.
Poppy Balser
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This has been very informative! As far as Esther's comment about increasing prices beyond 10 percent, here is my experience: After a season of selling very well at the small local gallery/upscale craft shop, I increased my prices. I also at the same time was accepted into a more upscale gallery and was advised by that gallery owner to increase because in his opinion my works would not be taken seriously at current prices. After the price increase (approximately a 50 percent increase) my sales dropped off signifigantly. In retrospect I should have done it much more slowly. My paintings were underpriced then, but I should have eased the prices up gradually.
K. Henderson
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I feel like I'm posting too much here but I have another thought on pricing. When I first started showing in galleries my oils (24 x 30) were priced at $900. I NEEDED $450 to meet my expenses, overhead etc. Well, my galleries consistently gave 10 percent discounts. This is very common. So I soon raised my prices to meet my needs. My paintings sold just as well at the higher price. That was my first try at price raising, it worked and I've been pretty comfortable about raises prices periodically ever since.
Keep in mind you may have to find higher end galleries as time goes by. I eventually priced myself out of my original gallery.
Poppy Balser
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K, I think what you describe is what has happened to me, I have to a large extent priced myself beyond what the local population is willing to pay. But I live in a small rural area. When I look beyond "home" my prices are still reasonable, especially in comparison to those I consider my peers.
Carol Schmauder
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One of the wonderful things about these discussions is to see the work of those making comments. Diana, your work is gorgeous and your gallery should have no problem with you raising prices if you are selling out.

Carole Rodrigue
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Thanks again for the excellent information Lori! Charging by the square inch is what I've been doing. I also have wondered about perhaps charging more for works that I feel have more detail and required more work. But I also have noticed that there are some works I didn't particularly like but collectors fell in love. So, I'm going to stick to the formula but add in your procedure for framing price. Those pieces which I feel should get a higher price, perhaps I'll take them off the market until later.
Esther J. Williams
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Poppy, in my case, I was underpriced in my art. I have been at this game of doing shows, exhibitions and eBay sales for ten years now in painting in oils. My prices went from 25 cents a square inch to now two dollars and that is still low. In December I won a third place award and last month a second place award on top of a dozen awards in the past. A painting just sold right after I raised my prices for $500 in my community gallery. It doesn`t sound like much to many, but to me it meant a lot and it did to the gallery. Business has been slow everywhere. I also followed Lori`s advice on taking everything off my website that didn`t reflect the quality of my present work. I removed 30 sold works that looked under the level of quality I am at right now. Another piece sold at a fundraiser, although I did not receive anything from it. I am proud to say I gained a new admirer though. She might result in future sales. This week another work sold and all are priced at two dollars a square inch. They are not flying out the window, but I know I am priced low and will raise them again. I made a decision to no longer put my art on eBay for under two dollars a square inch. I am now being consistent across the board. I am good right now but if I could get six to twelve dollars a sq inch, I will do a happy dance! I plan on it someday! Heck, I do the happy dance whenever anything sells!

Linda Wilder
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Using the price per sq inch, my mid size work, 16x20 sells for $550.00 0r 1.75 a sq in. I up it a bit for smaller work ( 8x10- $250) and lower it a bit for larger work(30x40-$1400). I have been told my prices are too low... I'm hesitant to raise it as I'm afraid of less sales. ( I did sell 75 paintings last year). I'm represented by a small artist run gallery but no high end galleries ( an objective of mine in the very nesr future) I sell at local art shows, groups, etc.I have won some awards, and I'm in the prestigous Calgary Stampede art show this summer...so maybe I'll wait til then and see how it goes before raising them.

Teddy Jackson
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Lori:
Thanks for another great article. Interesting comment about pricing by size. Sometimes, I have a great attachment to one painting or another; but, I do realize that my favorites may not the favorites of those viewing my artwork. I have tended to increase the price of paintings that have won awards or have been juried into shows.
Linda, congratulations on being accepted into the Calgary Stampede Art Show.
Teddy
Teddy Jackson
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Diane Watson:
Your work is beautiful. I just to check it out since everyone was talking about it.
WOW!!!
Teddy
Tom Weinkle
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Another great dialogue. Thanks for sharing everyone. I learned alot with this topic thread.

P.S. Diana's paintings are sumptuous!

Donald Smith
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Lori,
Thanks for sharing the “by square inch” pricing guide. I’ve always done the same flat rate for both large and small pieces, but then I’m only charging $1.00 / square inch, and that includes the price of the frame. Even at that low price, I only sell a painting occasionally. I’ve had more interest lately, so I need to find a venue for showing my paintings.

I’ve tried ArtByUS.com, but wasn’t impressed. They have a LOT of paintings for sale and only a few people buying.

Do you or anyone else have any experience with which online galleries have more sales?

I’ve been thinking about Ebay. I read an article in “Art Calendar” by Jack White, and he tried Ebay. He said at first you will loose money, and you have to add 4 or 5 paintings every week to show people you’re a serious artist. I might be able to paint 4 or 5 small paintings 4x6” or 6x8” paintings a week, but I work full time, and my family is very important to me, so I don’t have more time to spend painting. Jack also said it takes 6 months to build a client base, and after that the auctions will start driving up the prices and a person may start seeing better prices.

Thanks!
Donald

Helen Horn Musser
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Diana's paintings are beautiful. Me too, Tom. Lori gave us much to think about and helped our cause. Thank you Lori!

Helen Horn Musser
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Donald, Do you have your own website? Faso has great software to build your own and that is the place my art sells on line. Have not had luck with other venues for selling; but, good exposure.

Carol Schmauder
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Donald, Aside from a web site on FASO you might give fineartamerica.com a try. There is no charge to post your paintings there, however they have many artists on the site. Because there is no charge, you have nothing to lose by trying it out. Best wishes.

Helen Horn Musser
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Carol is right; that's one of the best. Have sold prints on that site but, not originals

Donald Smith
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I had a funny conversation with my darling wife about selling art. when I talked to her about Lori's first article, my wife said, "What do you want to do? paint or run a business?" I never could convence her that an artist can be both and artist and a business person.

She took art back in the 70s, and thinks if you're painting to make a profit, then you're a commercial artist, and you can't be painting for "the love and joy of painting," which in her mind is the ONLY reason to paint, and why she paints.

Since I'm starting to "market" my paintings, she wants me to market hers too, freeing her up to paint.

I must be in love with this woman, because her logic makes my head spin.... LOL

Donald
Helen Horn Musser
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Love that woman; she'll come around

Lorraine Khachatourians
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This has been a great discussion, and very helpful for me as I come up to 4 shows this year. I have been moving into oil paintings in the past 3 years and was pricing like the watercolours. I have been using square inch, and not really considering the frames. So now before these shows, I am going to make some thoughtful adjustments and see how that goes. Hopefully that will give me a new base to work from. Also, I am going to order some trial frames from 'King of Frames' - they look very nice on line and great prices. And remove some older paintings from the web site. Lots to do! Thanks to everyone for sharing their knowledge and expertise. So helpful.

Sue Martin
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I love your story, Donald. Meanwhile, I'm married to a man who criticizes artists with "noses in air," refusing to paint what might sell, and not making any effort to propel themselves into the marketplace. Ironically, the part of my art (subject/style) that sells the best, he doesn't like as much as some of my other work, and he encourages me to go in a different direction.

Diane Tasselmyer
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Lori, This is a lively talk. David Mayer made a good point that we do need to do some reflection on the quality of our work.

It isn't easy to stare that in the face, but there is one thing to make it better....WORK AT IT!!! Strive to be better! Be tenacious!

Helen Horn Musser
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Diane, Great advice; must get to work

Carol Schmauder
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Donald, My goodness, if you only paint for the love of it, and you really love it, what do you do with all the paintings if you don't sell some? Relatives only have room for so many "gifts" and then you have paintings coming out your ears! LOL. Good luck with your efforts to sell. I hope you find a good venue for your work.

Lori Woodward
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Hi, checking in from Tucson this morning :-)

For a long time, my prices were much lower per square inch... when I started working with better galleries and shows/auctions, I raised my prices to match the other paintings being sold there.

Don't feel ashamed if you're only charging $1 per square inch. Better to get some sales and go up from there.


Helen Horn Musser
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Lori, you are a class act. Thank you

Lori Woodward
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Somewhere on this blog/forum I wrote about adding/increasing value of your work by getting darned good at what you do. If you want higher prices, the easiest way to do that is to create remarkable work that stands out from the crowd.

I've got to log off - will check in next week. Thanks everyone for your contributions and shared info here. We can all learn from each others experiences!


Lori Woodward
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Thanks Helen and Diane.

I'm about to log off for a few days (traveling)- will check back here next week. I so appreciate those who've asked pertinent questions and others, who've taken time out of their schedules to give great advice and share their experiences.

If only I had a forum like this when I was starting out... I wouldn't have made so many mistakes early on.



Tuva Stephens
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I agree Lori that as an artist becomes more accomplished, wins awards, enters more prestigious shows, one can charge more. When you live in a rural area, where there are very few galleries one still has to notice what other artist's prices are. I really like the idea of average people being able to buy affordable art that they can afford in which they can enjoy!

I could put $1500 on my work and not sell it, but I know I can sell several at a time for $500 . The more people that purchase my art at a reasonable price the more fulfilled I am as an artist. I certainly understand when artists have to get more because of the 50 percent that some galleries charge! That makes a big difference in pricing! I find when your prices are reasonable customers will commission more work because of how much they enjoy having art in their home.

This past weekend I stopped at a neighbor's house and took some awesome reference photos in which to do a portrait. He was sitting on a stool under the edge of a garage smoking his pipe. His long white beard and puffs of smoke curling above his head was incredible. Strong light from the left created a Rembrandt lighting against the dark paneled wall behind him. The light created a warm glowing effect! He wanted to know if I wanted him to put on his civil war reenactment uniform because he would like for me to not only paint him in uniform but paint one his ancestors in his uniform from a photo. Is it possible I could paint 3 portraits or figurative work? I really like the connection with my subjects. I can't wait to paint this portrait, but I am preparing for a workshop in which I will be teaching the next couple of Saturdays near Memphis!

Esther J. Williams
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Tuva, this is not related to pricing directly. But that description of your upcoming commission was beautiful and poetic! You need to write that down for your permanent description of the work`s statement. If you place the poetry of your words into the art, it will be a greatly moving piece of art. It is emotional, aesthetic inspiration balanced with great technique that creates great works of art. I believe you have it dear!

Helen Horn Musser
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I agree with Esther, Tuva, you can turn out a masterpiece with this

Tuva Stephens
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Thanks Esther and Helen! I always write descriptions of inspiration for my paintings in my journal. I find them quite useful to use for shows and receptions. People always are ask me who the people are that I paint. Recently at a reception a lady said she got goosebumps when looking at Working Man I and II. That was a first to stir someone like that. Many people say they feel like they know or have met the occasional strangers that I meet along my way. As I have said before, stories help to sell my work.



Helen Horn Musser
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Good Morning Esther, That is a great habit to be in; I'm sorry to say I fall short in keeping records of paintings in that way. Maybe I can work on it.

Tuva Stephens
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I have been keeping a journal since 2001. I can not wait to record paintings sold, art shows/entries, awards, receptions, my short term and long range goals, prayers, intentions, comments,dates when paintings are completed, etc. I also have several hard back journals that I take to workshops to record notes and sketches during workshops

Helen Horn Musser
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Tuva, That is wonderful; protect and treasure your journals. I regret not keeping one for all the years I've painted. I knew I should but kept saying I'll do that later and quess what? Have not done it yet and I've been painting for over 30 Years. So, you have my admiration; goooooooo girl

Linda Wilder
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Tuva, what a wonderfull idea! I think I will have to start one.

Tuva Stephens
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Linda, you will not regret keeping a journal! You do not have to be a slave to it. You will want to write in it! I have within the last few months started writing my techniques, palette and evaluation of each painting as to the composition in a 4x6 hardback book that I keep near my work area. I think it is a way to validate one's own work by writing a critique!

Debra Russell
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I too have found that what I think will sell is not necessarily what sells! When I first started selling, I compared my paintings to other artists that I felt had comparable work, then priced mine slightly lower. I was able to come up with a price per sq inch that I thought was very affordable.I think it was around $2 per sq inch. Now 7 years later I have slowly raised my prices every year and some of my best collectors were my first sales! I'm not quite at Lori's level, but as my work gets better my prices will get better!

Arlen Madole
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Lori: I really enjoy all of your articles and to say the least I seem to "hang on every word." I have been pricing a different way....but think this way you suggest has less guess work and yet more leeway for going up or down a bit. Thanks for this information. It's really helpful.

Arlen Madole









 

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