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When to Break Gallery Ties

by Lori Woodward Simons on 9/1/2009 2:58:31 PM

This Post is by Lori Woodward Simons, Regular contributing writer for FineArtViews. You should submit an article and share your views as a guest author by clicking here.


When I was a very young girl, Neil Sedaka had a hit recording, Breaking Up Is Hard To Do. Most of us know how traumatic a breakup can be in a human relationship, but breaking business ties with a gallery can be "hard to do" as well.

For most of my professional painting life, it's safe to say that I've had good relationships with my galleries, but there have been a couple who were downright abusive in a business sense. In any other career, these folks would have been reported to the better business bureau, but for some reason - in the art world - gallery dealers can, and do get away with practices that would be illegal in say, the real estate business. For example, if a real estate agent sells a house for more than the seller priced the house at and keeps the difference, that agent could go to jail. Likewise, if an agent says to the seller, "Bottom line, what do you want for the house when all is said and done?", and then the agent prices the house at a much higher price and makes more, that is also illegal.

When I first started working with gallery dealers, I didn't know any better. I let one of them talk me into stating what I wanted for a painting. The gallery owner then proceeded to sell my painting for 3 times the amount and kept the difference. How did I know this? Later, I got to know someone who had considered buying that painting. She told me what the gallery's price had been.

As time went on, the relationship with that gallery deteriorated further. She would not answer any of my phone calls, letters or email. I had no idea if she had sold my remaining paintings or not. Believing that my husband would have more clout (I have a childlike voice), I had him call several times, but the gallery owner was continually unavailable. This went on for almost 2 years.

It turns out that one of that gallery's top selling artists is a good friend of mine. She decided to risk her reputation with the gallery to stand up for my rights. She told the art dealer that if Lori didn't get paid for her paintings or get them returned promptly, she (the artist) would leave the gallery. This artist friend sold over $30,000 worth of paintings annually there. Interestingly enough, I got my paintings back within a week, with payment for several that had sold.

Just in case you're thinking I'm "anti-gallery", just look at my post Why Galleries Rock. Again, I have had wonderful working relationships with galleries. On the other hand, how does an artist know when it's time to break the relationship? What are the warning signs that let you know you've signed up with a deadbeat gallery?

1. You suspect that they're cheating. You may laugh at this statement, but there is something to be said for artists' intuition. My good gallery owners never had any excuses. They paid on time every time and were always glad to let me know a painting sold. Everything was out in the open and they were approachable.

2. You have difficulty contacting them. They become "conveniently" unavailable. You begin to suspect that they're hiding something. You hope that's case. However, I've learned to let my suspicions be my guide. While it's not wise to hound your gallery dealer, if you haven't been able to talk to them on the phone, email or in person for a month or more, you can bet there's a reason why.

3. You know you've sold a painting, but haven't received payment. Normally payment occurs within 30 days after the sale. One gallery I worked with locally had an excuse about why they couldn't pay me - for every painting I sold. Okay, sometimes there are problems, and if the gallery owner is open with me about financial problems, I may be willing to work things out until they get over the tough times. But when there is an excuse every time, I begin to wonder if I'm being lied to.

4. The gallery sends you checks for less than your stated price. Often they'll say they gave the buyer a discount. I ask that the gallery never give a discount unless I am contacted first and approve. If I agree, the discount should be shared equally by the gallery and me. I've had some galleries take the discount fully off of my percentage while they get their full 50%. What artist would put up with that for very long? Not I!

I've heard it said that working with a gallery is like a marriage, but if that were true, then I'd be part of a harem. It's not a marriage but a business relationship. Isn't it time that we artists demand respect and fair business practices? Communications should remain open, and neither the artist nor the gallery dealer should sneak behind the others back. Yes, I know that artists can be just as shady as gallery dealers. So we should be totally professional in our dealings as well. Honesty and integrity must be apparent from both sides.


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 15 Comments

JT Harding
via fineartviews.com
Thanks Lori. I'm still waiting for that call from Legacy Gallery (lol) but in the meantime this is good to know. I'm beginning to think we need an online rating system for Galleries. That way, we (artists) would know which ones to approach and which one/s to avoid...

Clint Watson
via clintwatson.net
Thanks Lori, you're absolutely right, there's no reason to put up with such unprofessional behavior, there are plenty of great galleries who will treat their artists right.

Manuela Valenti
via clintwatson.net
Great, really great article!
I can say 90 percent of the galleries I've worked with for the past 10 years since I moved to the US have being wonderful, but that 10 percent less than undesirable, from payments never made, to closing the gallery and finding out 3-4 months after they went out of business, loosing all my work the gallery carried all the way to lies, and more lies.

As professionals we are asked to be that professionals, so I don't see anything wrong in expecting the same professionalism from the galleries that represent us. In the end a gallery can't exist without us artists, but certainly we can make a great living on our own.
Lori Woodward Simons
via clintwatson.net
I'm going to ask a question. I normally don't like conflict, but I've often wondered if now - with the Internet if we artists can finally band together and support each other in not putting up with unprofessional business practices from galleries.

As an self-employed artist, I've often felt that I have little power or recourse when dealing with a deadbeat gallery. Should there be a standard that we expect gallery owners to live up to? If so, what standards do we want?

for example, I'd like to know when one of my paintings has sold right away. Then I want payment within 30 days of the sale. No discounts given without my permission, and only to collectors who buy more than on "of my works" not just works at the gallery. ETC.

What do you all think should be standard practice?



Lori Woodward Simons
via clintwatson.net
Wow... many typos. Clint, am I going to get myself into hot water here?

As Clint said above, there are many MANY great galleries out there who do things right. I'm not going to allow gallery bashing here. Just get a consensus concerning what artists would like to see.

Clint Watson
via clintwatson.net
Lori, I think that *should* be standard practice. In addition, if you share the expense of an advertisement with a gallery then don't you have a right to all the customer contact info from leads that came from that ad? I mean, after all, you paid for them too.....

Lori Woodward Simons
via clintwatson.net
Yeah, good point Clint. BTW: whenever I've asked my gallerists for names, they've given them to me. I guess they know I won't sell behind their backs.

Hey anyone else on line wanna join in?

Sari Grove
via clintwatson.net
Before I apply to a new gallery, I have taken to contacting artists who have previously been with that gallery...If they have gone, they are freer to speak...I absolutely love JT Harding's idea(first comment) for an online rating sytem for galleries...As an afterthought, I think the whole traditional gallery system is becoming obsolete and will be undergoing a huge paradigm shift...What I mean is, is that with the ease of visibility on the internet, the physicality and necessity for in person viewing is becoming less of a priority...I, for one, am happy to be showing three solid works in a non-traditional venue that keeps them there permanently on display, with business cards leading to a website for more works...I can bring any work seen on the website to the venue for pick-up or purchase and I don't need to compete with a rotating schedule...I have had three galleries close on me in the past decade, and have had to put up with all sorts of dubious practices-by artists as well (which includes selling from studio without the gallery getting commission, while represented, and making the rest of us look bad)...For those with solid websites, consider working with retailers who are willing to give you a permanent nook, and facilitating web to bricks'n mortar conversions...In the movie 'The 40 year old virgin' the female protagonist has a small physical shop where you can view items in person, though you transact on Ebay auction(or Paypal or shopping cart)...This may be the new paradigm- plus, it gives some dignity back to artists who have been subjugated by crummy galleries...(just saying no always gets respect)...
Lori Woodward Simons
via clintwatson.net
Sari, that sounds like a great idea! It'll be interesting to see how things have changed in a few years from now.

Artists seem to have more power to sell on their won with the Internet.

Dinayen Wirba Henry
via fineartviews.com
I have improved greatly with my artistic pieces because I have been following lessons from the FineArtviews. I will like to go on to fine arts competitions and to seeing how my arts pieces can be exposed to the open world. I hope to keep in touch as I plough through the artistic world. I am inspired to do a doctoral thesis on Fine arts and Liturgical furnishings. I also am doing a research of our imitation of God in his creation by being artists. How artistic was God in his creation is what we are striving to answer and unfold. We will continue to be in touch. Bye and God bless you.
Elizabeth
via clintwatson.net
I have presently have good gallery relationships, because I have learned the hard way to be sure of the gallery's treatment of their artists before joining the gallery. I wonder if you have had any experience working with interior designers? I am working on a painting a designer wants to display in her shop--it will be for sale but it will also be important to the room set-up in the store. Is this a wise move for the artist? She has asked for a discount--and I don't intend to give one--but can she be expected to get the same price a gallery would for a painting? I would like to hear your thoughts on this.

Lori Woodward
via clintwatson.net
Elizabeth, I have not worked with interior designers.

How much do you make when the painting sells? How much does the designer make? Does she have an incentive to sell it?

For I. Designers, I'd sell the work outright at a 50 percent discount of retail, and be done with it. I believe they have to buy all their other merchandise at wholesale prices. Why not let your art be part of that deal? Then she can sell it or keep it as she likes.


Sari Grove
via clintwatson.net
I am back to old style one third commission (to galleries) or discount (to designers) across the board. 50 percent turned out to be too much for me...
Lori Woodward
via clintwatson.net
Sari,
Your comment is intriguing. How did you negotiate with your galleries for 1/3rd commission?

50 percent is too much for me too since I have to pay for all of the framing and shipping.

Sari Grove
via clintwatson.net
Work with smaller spaces that have less rent to pay monthly- they have less pressure. Work with women if you are a women- they can be more sensitive to your needs. If you do work with women, they prefer lighter works for carrying, though framing looks good it adds weight and forces the salesperson to expend extra energy. Work in the same size, same medium, same style, same pricepoint, makes it easier for them to remember, and they can switch up paintings easily without changing the hanging system...Promise that all sales, even from your studio or online will always result in a commission to the gallery. Be gorgeous and friendly and normal and don't use up their valuable time by chatting too much while in the gallery. Ask. Have great art and ask low prices- this makes the gallery job easier.









 

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