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Timely is the Hard Part...Victoria's Secret Shows Artists the Solution

by Clint Watson on 4/28/2009 11:06:26 AM

Today's Post is by Clint Watsonfounder of FineArtViews. Follow Clint on Twitter.

Making your marketing messages personal and relevant is really not all that hard....TIMELY is the hard part.

Not long ago, I wrote a blog post titled Personal, Timely, Relevant.  It was primarily about sending email newsletters to your fans and ensuring that those newsletters are personal, timely and relevant...otherwise your messages will be ignored.

Timely is the hard part.


I say timely is the hard part because it's fairly safe to assume that if someone visits your website and voluntarily signs up for your email newsletter, they will consider messages about your artwork and your career to be personal and relevant.  Otherwise, we would have to ask why did they sign up for your newsletter in the first place?  (One way to mess up on the personal and relevant issue is to start sending newsletters that are grossly off-topic such as who you support in political campaigns and your favorite animal shelters).  The key here is that people on your newsletter have voluntarily given you permission to put them on your email list.  If you start sending newsletters without permission, then you are a spammer and bad things will happen...but that's a different post.

The problem is that most people lead hectic lives are just too busy most of the time to pay attention to your messages.

So the question you have to ask yourself is, "How do I know when my prospect is in the mood to hear from me?  How do I know WHEN to send my message?"

The answer:  you don't.

So what's the solution?

The solution comes to us from.....Victoria's Secret.



Only 10 days worth of Victoria's Secret Catalogs



The Solution is Frequency


I started wondering just how many Victoria's Secret catalogs my wife receives in the mail because frankly, it seems like she gets one every single day (yes, the catalogs go to my wife...and, yes, Victoria's Secret sells regular clothes).

After 10 days of collecting, she received six catalogs.  Mind you these are 20+ page full color catalogs.  If we multiply that number out, it would seem that Victoria's Secret sends my wife over 200 catalogs a year.  In addition, she tells me she receives multiple weekly emails from them in addition to the print catalogs.

How can they afford to send her so much mail?  Aren't they bothering her?

So here's the story.  Victoria's Secret messages are personal and relevant to my wife because 1.  She likes their designs  2.  Their clothes are well made  3.  They carry sizes that fit her  4.  Ordering online/via catalogs is convenient  5. Other reasons I'm probably forgetting.  But, 90% of the time or more, the Victoria's Secret catalog goes right into the trash can recycle bin. Why?  Because 90% of the time the message isn't timely.

And this is the lesson - "Out of sight, Out of mind" is a true saying. 

In this day and age, you have to be there every time your customer turns around.

This is why I keep telling artists that they need to send an email newsletter at least twice a month.  Once every six months is woefully inadequate.

Start a newsletter list.  Send newsletters. Get started immediately.

Now, go change the world.

Sincerely,

Clint Watson
Software Craftsman and Art Fanatic

PS - Still skeptical that being there every time your customer turns around works?  Think you'll be considered a nuisance?  Well, consider this:  I asked my wife a few days back how much of her wardrobe came from Victoria's Secret.  Her answer:  probably 90% 50%-60% (still a significant percentage :-)).   It's OK if most of your messages are deleted, if you're consistently there in front of your fans, they will buy when the time is right.



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 35 Comments

Maria
via web
2 thoughts:



1.) I, too, am a Victoria Secret Junkie. Right now I'm wearing VS cotton long sleeve shirt (orange) and matching yoga pants. I too get catalogs almost every day....



2.) I, too, send out e-mail newsletters to our mailing list of over 10,000 opt-in people. But I have some concerns with sending too many e-mails.



I don't want to send an e-mail blast unless we have something compelling to share (upcoming events, new paintings, or business of art tips). I don't want to plaster our opt-in mailing list with too much mail. I worry that we'll lose them.



What do you suggest is too many e-mail blasts? I send one every 4-8 weeks, depending on what our message is.



I'd love to learn more about your thoughts on this. Thanks!

jennifer Phillips
via web
Hi Clint,
This post got me thinking (and this may be a good idea for one of your next blog posts)...

I have been reluctant to start a regular newsletter. To send a newsletter 2x a month seems excessive ONLY because I am unsure what to include IN it. Like the previous comment, I too only want email my client list when I have something compelling to say.

90% of my e-list are art admirers (not aritsts) so sending a newsletter that targets their market is important to me as well. The other 10% of my list subscribes to my blog (most are artists so my blog content targets that market) - this is where I share my personal adventures with painting as well as business related advice and inspiration for artists.

Another question would be... how do I get my regular "art admiring" client list to subscribe to my blog? I use Feedburner to subscribe and they would have to visit my blog to type in their email address, then confirm the subscription, to start receiving my posts directly. Is there a better way? (copy and pasting my blog post into an email?)

Maybe this is worthy of a post on your blog to help other artists in the same scenario?

Thanks for your input!

K. Henderson
via web
Darn. You're right! I send a newsletter once a month and I was SURE that that was good enough. I don't get much direct response from my newsletter but the hits on my blog and website go up so I know folks are looking at it.

I just sent my newsletter a few days ago. No direct responses. Today I decided to send an email because I have just finished a new painting. I've gotten several responses so far.

Wow! While I was writing this I got a phone call and I sold the painting!!!

Anne-Elizabeth Whiteway
via clintwatson.net
I have two website addresses.
The first one is personal website which was custom made for me:
www.echolakeart.com
The other one is a public one which has almost 20,000 members.
It is www.fineartamerica.com.
I have 250 entries on the latter.
Should I mention both when I send newsletters?
I learn so much from your insights and suggestions Clint!
You rock.
Anne


Clint Watson
via clintwatson.net
I would try to focus attention on the one that you own - echolakeart.com, otherwise your putting your future in someone else's hands. Change echolakeart.com to have an obvious e-newsletter signup form too.

Natasha Isenhour
via fineartviews.com
Fantastic article Clint! That is a very valid argument for frequency in marketing strategy.

There is a second moral to your story . . . "what's in a name." You mentioned VS and my curiousty just couldn't leave it alone!

Michael Cardosa
via fineartviews.com
Clint,

This follows along with something I learned from one of my distributors years ago. They felt that they had to "touch" a customer an average of six times before that customer actually bought something from them.

Email newsletters like other forms of marketing have to consistent for people respond to them and remember. It's why one shot, one time, big ad expenditures almost never work no matter if you are selling art or widgets. People will just not remember you.

Michael



Mimi Torchia Boothby Watercolors
via fineartviews.com
I guess that's why painting a day blogs work. That's high frequency if you ask me!

Helen Horn Musser
via fineartviews.com
Clint, Great example for us to follow. Thanks again for a timely tip

Jeanean Songco Martin
via fineartviews.com
I totally agree with Clint's article. It is important to realize that in this day and age we are bombarded with information. So much so that we are not always able to handle it all. How can we know when it is relevant to contact a potential collector, gallery or interested party? The answer is we don't know that is why it is so important to always be out there and in a timely fashion.

Having the FASO website has helped me so much in keeping the information flow. Having it all at my fingertips, literally has saved me time and allows for more painting. I have just returned from three weeks in Europe. Teaching a PLEIN AIR FRANCE painting workshop to Paris/Giverny/Provence then a music gig in the UK. The very next day upon my return I was on the internet posting my pictures of the group painting in France and next on my agenda is to get my May/June Newsletter out so that my subscribers can read about the trip.

I have already received 10 e-mails commenting about the photos and my website and also a couple of interested parties to sign on for next year already! That is the power of the net. I love having my website and really enjoy the comments that I receive from the newsletter subscribers. It's very gratifying to know that there are definitely people interested in your work and if I keep up this pace there will be more people interested in buying my art! a demain, Jeanean

Joanne Benson
via fineartviews.com
Hi Clint,
Thanks for the sage advice. I have mixed emotions about frequency. Right now I get soooo many emails and it is hard to keep up with all of them.....Some I look forward to and others are nusances. Right now I'm considering setting up additional email accounts to handle the junk vs. the preferred emails....I wish I had done that a while ago.

I guess if you send out newsletters you can always give your readers a frequency option to get the twice monthly email or get the 2 month synopsis with links to content at your blog....I guess I really can't afford to comment as I do neither now.....I email folks when shows are coming up and that's about it.

I would like to see a post describing all the widgets and things available and what exactly they do and how and why you would use them....I could probably play with them myself but time is a factor.

Mic
via fineartviews.com
I have just proven your theory to be correct! While I do suscribe to your email newsletter, I rarely read it. Sometimes I glance at the topics then it hits the circular file.
This time I read the title and decided to read your article. In recognizing it's relevance to me I will continue to check in, probably more often than not.
Thanks for the tips, they are more often than not... relevant.

Carol Schmauder
via fineartviews.com
Wow, twice a month? I send one every two months and thought that might be a bit bothersome to people. I guess I need to start rethinking my newsletter and work on interesting content so I can increase the number of newsletters I send out. Thanks for the post.

Clint Watson
via fineartviews.com
Natasha - plus they have a good name, they always leave people wondering what is the "secret?"

Clint Watson
via fineartviews.com
Michael - yes, don't know if 6 is always the number, but the concept holds.

Mimi - the only issue with a painting a day blog is it's more passive, and email newsletter pushes in front of people, a blog I can easily ignore.

Joanne and Carol - I understand the concerns about frequency, but if people know up front what they're signing up for it's not a problem (FineArtViews is DAILY for example).

Mic - glad to have you with us today :-)

Natasha Isenhour
via fineartviews.com
Very true Clint. The names that accompany my paintings often lead to a viewers further interest in the content of them. Through a thoughtful name, people can often relate further with the artwork and writing presented to them.

Michael Cardosa
via fineartviews.com
Clint,

Actually, I think that the 6 is actually outdated. With a constant flow of information to our PCs, phones, emails, social networks etc. frequency might be the only way to reach people.

It's the same with branding anything else.

Michael

Cooper
via fineartviews.com
Clint,
I enjoyed the article, and especially the post script. It points back to previously written articles about tribes. I suppose as artists we like to think of our patrons as tribes, but I think patrons like to think of artists in terms of an exclusivity, with "ownership" qualities. Your wife thinks of Victoria's Secret as "her" clothing company. Once she passed the 50 percent mark, they became her company, more than any other.
I think we can equate that to paintings as well. To sell a patron one painting is a sale. To sell the same patron a second painting is a challenge. To sell that same patron a third painting is easy, because you just passed the 50 percent mark or point of committment, and have become "their" artist.
Later, Cooper

Helen Horn Musser
via fineartviews.com
Cooper, I have found that to be true. Good focus on our patrons.

Tom Weinkle
via fineartviews.com
Interesting points. I agree that timeliness is important.

This may not need be said, but part of the reason for the frequency is to catch your wife at the moment she is likely to make the purchase, not to convince her to make a purchase. It also places their brand at the top of mind.

They know she will not buy every time she gets the catalog. They probably see some of their pieces as impulse purchases (go figure). I'm no clothing expert, but I know many times specials and sales have to do with high profit margins and remainders, and so forth. It's a science for sure.

So with art, sending more doesn't mean you'll change the mind of a buyer, but perhaps you will catch them at the right moment. And yes, 6 months is certainly not enough frequency.

And who said “PRINT” is dead. Seems they're using more trees than ever. Recycled or not.

thx

tom

Clint Watson
via fineartviews.com
Tom - absolutely print is not dead - that's another lesson for artists to remember :-)

Marilyn Gilis
via fineartviews.com
I sned out emails everytime I post a new paintint to my website. Then I post a lonk to my website and a note saying new painting added to my facebook and myspace pages.
For me any company, no matter how much I like their products loses me if they send daily emails or daily snail mail ads. To me such frequent snail mail ads are an excessive waste of money (my money if I buy their products) I consider it harrassment. Once or twice a month is enough for me.

Maybe frequency with art for sale newsletters and emails is more appropriate, especially if you're producing new art to introduce with each maiing.

Judy Mudd
via fineartviews.com
Wow, that's a lot. I was thinking quarterly was good. But it makes sense. If you aren't on their mind when they are ready to buy, they may think of someone else!

max hulse
via fineartviews.com
Clint I have been in the camp of not
sending an email often enough for fear
of offending busy people. You have
convinced me to try sending at least
two per month.
Hope this works out for me as well as
it does for Victoria!!
max hulse

Cathy Dietrich
via fineartviews.com
Mr. Watson, you are 100 percent right on the money with this advice. Excellent detecting
Your FASO newsletter SEEMS TO APPEAR EVERYDAY. I may not read the articles when they arrive but I keep them in a folder until I determine when they are relevant. So its not a nuisance when I'm in control with the delete or save button.

Otherwise an infrequent newsletter is like a Super Bowl ad. One glorious shot and then nada....then you and your message quickly disappears from the minds and hearts of those you wish to thrill.
cathy dietrich

Sharon Weaver
via fineartviews.com
I usually send out once a month but have tried twice a month a few times and noticed that I didn't get as many people opening my second one. I am not sure how accurate the FASO newsletter analysis is for this info but I could try it again.

Esther J. Williams
via fineartviews.com
Clint, this is more of some good sage advice when dealing with frequency of the newsletter. I started once a month, but I am now at every six weeks. My lifestyle has been on a rocket trip this year. I need to navigate it better to do two newsletters in a month. The fear of being too pushy also keeps me from creating a new newsletter. I am marking my calendar book for a new one every two weeks. I need to remind my subscribers anyway about an upcoming competition and art fair anyway.
I truly enjoyed the advice of making the newsletter personal and relevant. I thought about including a story in my latest one about a whale that I watched meet an untimely death in a harbor close by and how it made me feel about fisherman and nets. I left that story out because it was too sad and stated my contrary beliefs. People do not want to be pressured about environmental beliefs, Greenpeace, the Gulf, the politics, they only have to turn on their televisions to be bombarded with those issues. I keep my personal stories related to my art and it's process or art shows and receptions, awards. Plus a little humor is a must. I do get responses to my newsletters thankfully or I would wonder if they have hit their mark. We are like entertainers, we need to please our audience.
Cheers!

Esther J. Williams
via fineartviews.com
Clint, this is more of some good sage advice when dealing with frequency of the newsletter. I started once a month, but I am now at every six weeks. My lifestyle has been on a rocket trip this year. I need to navigate it better to do two newsletters in a month. The fear of being too pushy also keeps me from creating a new newsletter. I am marking my calendar book for a new one every two weeks. I need to remind my subscribers anyway about an upcoming competition and art fair.
I truly enjoyed the advice of making the newsletter personal and relevant. I thought about including a story in my latest one about a whale that I watched meet an untimely death in a harbor close by and how it made me feel about fisherman and nets. I left that story out because it was too sad and stated my contrary beliefs. People do not want to be pressured about environmental beliefs, Greenpeace, the Gulf, the politics, they only have to turn on their televisions to be bombarded with those issues. I keep my personal stories related to my art and it's process or art shows and receptions, awards. Plus a little humor is a must. I do get responses to my newsletters thankfully or I would wonder if they have hit their mark. We are like entertainers, we need to please our audience.
Cheers!

Esther J. Williams
via fineartviews.com
Sorry folks about the double posting. My Mozilla Firefox browser was hanging too long on the first comment and it appeared not to be posting it. I went onto Internet Explorer a few minutes later and posted it again. Weird how these browsers hold back so long in posting on FineArtViews blogs. Luckily I copied my comment and pasted it back into the other browser. These blog boxes do not save information and if you do not copy the comment before posting it and something goes wrong, the info gets lost. Frustrating when you spend half an hour typing up the comment!
Sometimes I get a message from here that says my javascripts are turned off and it will not post unless I turn it on in Internet Options. I check it and it is turned on. It still doesn't post. I get pretty impatient at that point and give up. That is why my commenting is way down. I don't mean to complain, but I guess I am, I wanted to air these issues with the posting. Anyone else have these issues or is it just my operating system?

Katarzyna Lappin
via fineartviews.com
Hi!
I think Keith is giving an awesome marketing advice every time he posts another newsletter. I am an artist but professionally this is my beginning. I belong to FASO website for about 6 months and everything I learn here brings results. I am also a member of several public websites but I would consider it unwise to direct potential customers to those instead of focusing on this personal website. (I use them to bring traffic to my FASO web) It's like owning a small unique store and when sending a message to the world you advertise a huge megastore where your product is also present but somehow lost in a to big of a variety of other products and choices.
So Keith's comment on this in this forum confirms my feelings and also what I experience.
Newsletters is the area I am very new, but somehow I experienced that personal approach makes the best magic. Also I can see that certain messages apply to different category of responders. I can see that my mailing list consists of people who are serious or potential buyers who like my work, friends who just love to see what I am up to, art fans who like my work but they are not really interested in buying or other artists who like to see my art and progress.
I agree with many of you here that sending to many messages might discourage people from returning. So what I am doing is that I send it when there is something substantial to offer like a new painting, new event, exhibit, awards - anything what shows
a progress . I rather have smaller mailing list but active than just a huge one but passive. So at this time of my carrier my frequency is once a month. But I believe that when I become more productive with my art and more things will happen along my artistic journey I would be happy to let the world know about it more frequently. Thanks Keith for sharing your knowledge and experience !



Katarzyna Lappin
via fineartviews.com
I am so sorry. I wrote Keith instead of Clint. My mistake. I apologize. So much to learn :)

Teddy Jackson
via fineartviews.com
Clint:
Thanks for the guideline regarding frequency of newsletters. I am so busy it is hard to settle into a routine for my newsletters. I do certainly notice an increase in visits to my website after sending out my newsletters.
I must give more priority to getting a regular newsletter prepared and sent. My original goal for this year was one per quarter; but, it sounds like I should increase that significantly.
Thanks,
Teddy

Teddy Jackson
via fineartviews.com
Clint:
Thanks for the guideline regarding frequency of newsletters. I am so busy it is hard to settle into a routine for my newsletters. I do certainly notice an increase in visits to my website after sending out my newsletters.
I must give more priority to getting a regular newsletter prepared and sent. My original goal for this year was one per quarter; but, it sounds like I should increase that significantly.
Thanks,
Teddy

Debra Russell
via fineartviews.com
Clint
Since joining FASO about 3 years ago...I have read over and over how we should be sending out newsletters and building our email lists. Every time I read an article on this topic, I would think it was a great concept, but I didn't want to bother people. Well, after reading about Brian Kliewer's 100 paintings on FASO, I decided I would implement a similar idea and try to get people to sign up for my email newsletter.Instead of giving something away...I would offer smaller paintings for a smaller price. I had previouly been putting out a quarterly newsletter to let patrons know of shows and gallery strolls, but could not get people to have these announcements sent via email. At our May gallery stroll I introduced a 45 paintings in 45 days event, but the trick was you could only get it through your inbox. In 21 days time I have added 60 names to my email list and these small unframed 5x7 paintings are selling within 3 minutes! I thought for sure people would get tired of seeing my work every day, but I've had numerous emails saying how excited they are to see what I will come up with that day.So I guess what I'm saying is...I AM A BELIEVER !!! It took me awhile, but once again you have the solution if will just try it!

Donna Robillard
via fineartviews.com
Thanks for the information about the frequency of sending newsletters. I had heard once a quarter is enoug;, but after reading this, they need to be sent more frequently.










 

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