Discuss: A rant about high profile art magazines and Vincent van Gogh.

bsherwin: I get annoyed when a high profile art magazine features van Gogh. The hard truth is that most of the big art publications today would not have noticed van Gogh had they existed back then. Think of the van Gogh's of today who are ignored by the art world powers that be. The high profile art world has yet to do much with regard to discovering artists beyond the mainstream art market. If you don't exhibit in the 'right' galleries... you don't exist in their world. Thoughts?

	Phil Kendall via faso.com	10 months ago
	The art of the long dead should be consigned to the bonfire of history. I'm only interested in artists' and their art if they are still above ground. The art of 200 hundred years ago should be ripped out of the art galleries and museums and burnt for district heating.

	Brian Sherwin via faso.com	10 months ago
	That is hardcore Mr. Kendall. I will say that there should be more of a focus on the hear and now -- and NOT just what is going on within the high dollar aspects of the art market.

	Bob Ragland via faso.com	10 months ago
	I wish art magazines would, do more on the business of art. One page on how artists cope with money situations. How artists,live between sales, finance the workshops they attend. I know the M word, is hard for some artists to talk about. Money is a reality. The energy company and grocers won't take art for their service.

	Phil Kendall via faso.com	10 months ago
	Nope I'm a COG Crusty Old Git! The result of not dying before getting old. I'm just fed up of seeing and reading about past masters and their out-dated art. All that is done is that some old article is hacked out by some lazy journalist. There is much good art produced in the 20th century that is never seen or written about. this would need courage and effort.

	Sandra via faso.com	10 months ago
	Libraries and Google are great for searching out "old Masters". I personally enjoy visiting museums to see the works; and home towns of "old masters". However it might be expedient for the art magazines to keep subscribers updated about current sales of old masters and new finds with scientific research on techniques of Old Masters, but I would like to learn about contemporary and not so long ago dead artists who do great work!

	MACKIE SMITH via faso.com	10 months ago
	PHIL, YOU HAVE A BLACK OR WHITE, ALL OR NOTHING , WAY OF THINKING, THERE IS ROOM FOR BALANCE , SOME TIMES I STUDY THEIR COLOR FORM, and APPLY IT TO MY WORK IN PROGRESS.WORKS FOR ME. MACKIE

	Linda Schweitzer via faso.com	10 months ago
	I hardly read the art magazines anymore. They mostly seem to be "pay to play" If you are in a gallery that advertizes in the magazine, they may write about you. Or if you directly advertize with them. The magazines keep writing about the same artists, over and over. I would like to see some new faces.

	Arthur Barnes via faso.com	10 months ago
	Good inspirational art is timeless whether it was created centuries ago or yesterday. All is valid. âАЬThrough art mysterious bonds of understanding and of knowledge are established among men. These are the bonds of a great brotherhood. Those who are of the Brotherhood know each other, and time and space can not separate them.âАЭ Robert Henri

	Phil Kendall via faso.com	10 months ago
	A rant Mackie, not a shout...My life is just too short not to see things as either or. The art press ignores what good art there is to be found today. But then the art press will go the same way as the local daily paper and it will all be on-line.

	Bob Ragland via faso.com	10 months ago
	The art world is what it is. We just have to deal with it. Too much time can be wasted being concerned about stuff we can't do much about. I do feel your rant.

	Bob Ragland via faso.com	10 months ago
	There seems to be a lot of bitter artists in the discipline. That energy could be used to further an art career.

	Jackie via faso.com	10 months ago
	Surely magazines, art or otherwise, print what their readership wants to read? They'd go out of business otherwise.

	Phil Kendall via faso.com	10 months ago
	Jackie...you only get to see what the editor wants you to see.

	Bob Kennedy via faso.com	10 months ago
	one theme that seems fairly constant is that of pay to play. this is prevalent in both print and online.get ready for money talks bullshit walks THIS GOES ON IN EVERY ENDEAVOR MEDICINE, LAW,AND EVEN ART.

	Brian Sherwin via faso.com	10 months ago
	Jackie -- ad sales play a major role in print magazine content. You can see it happen on art blogs as well. For example, both Art Fag City and Hyperallergic criticized ArtPrize early on... only to end up praising them once ArtPrize became a sponsor. Ad sales can potentially 'change' opinions. Sadly, that also means that ad sales can influence the documentation of art history.

	Brian Sherwin via faso.com	10 months ago
	Heck, even Jerry Saltz -- arguably the most well known living art critic in the United States -- told me that he must focus attention on the whim of his editor. In other words, you won't see Saltz exploring art outside of the boundaries set by his editor. Art criticism in print is extremely contained in my opinion.

	Phil Kendall via faso.com	10 months ago
	The editorial policy as determined by advertiser clout...?

	Jackie via faso.com	10 months ago
	Yep. The media, whether it's television, print or the internet publish whatever is going to bring them the most revenue. That might be from sales or it might be from advertising or some strange sort of 'sponsorship' that we know nothing about.

	Sergio Lopez via faso.com	10 months ago
	Don't worry Phil, I am sure someone will want to treat your art in the same way once you die. If "pay to play" ends up paying off in the long run, is it a good business move or not? Does it pay off in the long run, even?

	Brian Sherwin via faso.com	10 months ago
	Good question Sergio. I have no solid answer.

	Bob Ragland via faso.com	10 months ago
	Real artists take responsibility, for their own success or failure in the art game. Effort gets results. Art and art careers take time and patience. There are many artists who proceed to succeed, and they have steady careers. Many of these artists, do well with out the press and art critics. I am one of these artists, happy to be one.

	Bob Ragland via faso.com	10 months ago
	I try to do masterpiece business all the time. The art making takes care of itself.